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Initial post today by odinthor
Is the identity of the rose(s) shown in the various photos certain? This is not what I would anticipate for a rose which was described early on as "deep cerise," "light red," "bright purplish red," or even just "cerise pink."
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Margaret Furness
Interesting that none of the references mention a white eye.
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Initial post 5 days ago by a_carl76
Rose Listing Omission

Cepheus

From Highgarden Roses website (https://highgardenroses.com/collections/new-arrival/products/cepheus-french-florist-shrub-rose):

Cepheus French Florist Shrub Rose
This stunning pink shrub rose features large, full flowers with serrated petals. Its light pink outer petals contrast elegantly with the deeper pink center, and it releases a sweet, fruity fragrance. Blooming beautifully throughout the seasons, it's a delightful addition to any garden.

Color: Deep pink
Fragrance: Strong, fruity
Bloom form: Cupped
Bloom size: 4"-6"
Repeat bloomer: Yes
Shrub size: 2 1/2'-3 1/3'
Suitable for zones: 5-10
Origin: France
Breeder: Meilland
Year of introduction: 2012
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Reply #1 of 5 posted yesterday by jedmar
This nursery is not listed on HelpMeFind. There is very little information on the web about them, except as being located in the Portland, Oregon area.
'Cepheus' as a Meilland trade name is unknown. Maybe someone from Meilland can comment?
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Reply #2 of 5 posted yesterday by Nastarana
If anyone here is a customer of Portland Roses, maybe, right after you hand over the cash or card, you could gently suggest HMF as free advertising which reaches many dedicated rose gardeners.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted today by Michael Garhart
The seller might be located in Portland, but there is no physical nursery. I live in the greater metro.

This seems like yet another of those from Etsy, except I don't recognize the name from Etsy. There is no 'About'. Nothing that tells me its a site that might make your money disappear. It COULD be real, but I don't know that, and that's honestly their problem if they do not make it apparent.

Either way, if they are real, then its an atrocious place to root and sell florist varieties. Its a low light, low elevation, high rain area. So possibly somewhere warmer ships the product to them and other like-sellers. I don't know. It just feels off to me.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted today by Nastarana
OK, my error, it is Highgarden Roses. The website claims "grown and shipped from Portland, Oregon". No street address. They might be growing out seedlings provided by a wholesaler. There is a website, so not only Etsy.

I was interested by your description of propagation difficulties in the area. Is Heirloom at a higher elevation, not so wet? There was once Roy Hennesey's nursery, which I believe would have been not far from the mouth of the Willamette River. Did he not manage to propagate under the conditions you describe? Do greenhouses help with the excessive humidity?
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Reply #5 of 5 posted today by Michael Garhart
Heirloom is an hour south of me, and the use a combination of massive greenhouses and also outdoor growouts.

The land there is much more affordable, and they are directly butted against a massive river, surrounded by dairy farms and mint farms (so cheaper access to materials), as well as closer to other ag businesses.

That amount of land to be able to have such an extensive system would cost millions and millions in Portland itself. It would be economically insane.
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Initial post today by Callimarcio
One of the prettiest gallicas ever. Its original and proper name is 'L'Assemblage de beautés'. It was bred in Angers, by a florist-gardener, M. Jean Gentilhomme, in 1819.
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Initial post 5 MAY 22 by Kathy Strong
Hmmm, only a little bit of fragrance on this one here. Anytime they name something "Parfuma," I expect better. Marketing!
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Reply #1 of 10 posted 30 MAY 23 by S_Mazza
Agreed ... nice rose, but it's like the perfume didn't make it through customs.
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Reply #2 of 10 posted 26 AUG 23 by jeffbee
Hahahhahah
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Reply #3 of 10 posted 7 JUN by Michael Garhart
Mine has a strongly developed plant now, so I'm going to see if having a larger root system has an affect on the fragrance or not (it does in some damask HTs). I'll try to remember to report back.
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Reply #4 of 10 posted 7 JUN by Nastarana
What is a "damask HT"?
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Reply #5 of 10 posted 9 JUN by Kim Rupert
I think Michael means HTs with Damask scent.
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Reply #6 of 10 posted 9 JUN by Michael Garhart
Sorry Damask HT is basically the darker red types with damask fragrance, or at least referred to as damask fragrance even if its not lol.
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Reply #7 of 10 posted 9 JUN by Michael Garhart
Tested the scent today. If I REALLY bury my nose in there, its moderate fragrance. The plant is very nice, and the blooms are pretty, but labeling it Parfuma is a stretch by Kordes in my opinion.

The soil has adequate water. The plant is healthy and robust. The blooms are large and full. The weather has been cool mornings and mid-80s afternoons. So there is no real reason for it not to be fragrant. I just think Kordes overstated the strength of scent. Or maybe they're really sensitive to that type of scent.

For those reading, I'd still buy it again. It looks romantic and its very healthy. But don't expect it to blow your nose away lol.

Edit: Days later, I tested it again. It rained yesterday and has been cool. Today, it was dry, cool and overcast. The scent was moderate and peach scented. As in the scent of cut peaches.
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Reply #8 of 10 posted 2 days ago by sdrose
Contemplating getting this rose. How long do blooms last in a vase and on the plant? Thanks in advance.
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Reply #9 of 10 posted today by Michael Garhart
Average length when on the plant, so I assume similar to average when cut.
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Reply #10 of 10 posted today by sdrose
Thank you
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