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    NurseryA. B. Davis & Son Nurserymen and Florists Archive
    Initial post today by jedmar

    Rose prices in USA nowadays are very high indeed. Kordes in Germany or Meilland in France sell for $17-22 plus shipping for 4-5 liter potted roses.
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    Initial post yesterday by Robert Neil Rippetoe
    Rose Listing Omission

    Nitty Gritty Peach

    https://www.monrovia.com/nitty-gritty-peach-rose.html
    Reply #1 posted yesterday by jedmar

    This is listed
    Reply #2 posted yesterday by Robert Neil Rippetoe

    Sorry, I checked the other day and didn't see it.


    Thanks
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    Initial post yesterday by Robert Neil Rippetoe
    Rose Listing Omission

    Ruffled Romance

    'JACdebbie'

    https://www.jacksonandperkins.com/ruffled-romance-floribunda-rose/p/v2688/
    Reply #1 posted yesterday by jedmar

    Added, thank you!
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    RoseGolden Dragon™
    Initial post 3 days ago by Michael Garhart

    So ALTgolddragon (2013) is of unknown name, and ALTdragon (2025)is Golden Dragon.


    The problem is, the patent of ALTdragon uses the same photo as Golden Dragon on the American Rose Trials for Sustainability site, and they call it Golden Dragon. I'd link it but I don't want to test the new system and make this post disappear.


    Are they the same rose?


    ALTdragon very much has Julia Child plant traits. ALTgolddragon lists Westerland as a pollen parent, and the seed parent is a pink seedling of their making. So maybe they are two different roses? Its very hard to tell whats going on with this and why their company chose to do this confusing naming scheme 12 years apart.
    Reply #1 posted 2 days ago by Kathy Strong

    I think they are different. ALTdragon is the new good one. I asked Ping last weekend who were its parents, and he only said "it's complicated. "

    Reply #2 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart

    Maybe Julia Child x an inhouse seedling of complex breeding. Glad you like it. Yellow floris can be really off or on for people. No in-between. So maybe this one is hopeful for other climates.
    Reply #3 posted 2 days ago by jedmar

    The patent application for ALTgolddragon is from 2024, ALTdragon was commercialized by 2025. They are probably the same.
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