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Bonjour Monsieur Kai-Erik,
Moi aussi, je suis passionné par les roses, surtout par les rosiers anciens. Il y a quelque temps, vous vous étiez intéressé par le rosier Comtesse Ouwaroff. Avez-vous réussi à contacter monsieur Joseph Beaujean ? Est-ce que cette rose est à votre disposition ? Si oui, auriez-vous l'amabilité de partager des bouturages avec moi pour mon jardin privé ?
Bien à vous,
Elizabeth
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HMF gives Vibert as the breeder of this rose and 1845 as the introduction date, but in his 1845 catalogue, Vibert doesn't indicate that he bred this rose. I suspect that William Paul, writing in 1848, was correct to say that the rose was introduced in 1845 'from Angers', however.
One likely possibility is that Vibert discovered this rose as a sport. I've seen a number of roses that are attributed to him that he didn't claim as coming from his "semis". He must have discovered and introduced any number of sports during his long career, but I don't think he tagged them in his catalogues as his creations. The 1845 catalogue's price of 3 1/2 francs does seem appropriate for an 1845 rose introduction.
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 jedmar
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Clearly not bred by Vibert, but introduced by him. Teas were not his forte in any case.
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He did sell Teas, though, so maybe a sport that he discovered?
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"Showstopping, Oversized Blooms: The largest pink hybrid tea blooms you can grow—up to 6 inches across."
I dunno about that. The largest pink HTs I've ever seen were Rose Rhapsody, Caramel Sunset, and Gentle Giant. I live in a climate where you can see the largest possible. 'Elina' is so far my record breaker, with 'Rose Rhapsody', 'Neptune', 'Lloyd Center Supreme', and 'Claret' rounding out the top limits. 'Love and Peace', 'Color Magic', and 'Sunstruck' come close, but not quite. 'Pristine' might make the cut but I've never grown it.
A little disappointed that Pretty Lady Rose and Lasting Love are probably the parents. If its another dark pink HT, it needs to have something improved. When a company uses Lasting Love but does not use something to breed against its high level of black spot, its not impressive. LL has a lot of amazing qualities, but its hamstrung by its high rate of black spot. Both parents do well against other diseases, however. I just expected more out of Weeks. I guess they thought, "Pretty Lady Rose" is nice, but it doesn't have much fragrance, so they crossed it with a fragrant rose in a similar color category? I dunno lol.
Apparently Weeks also submitted another new rose to Spring Hill called 'Fashion Forward'. It might be the better buy? Rounded OGR form pink/white bicolor, but only some scent. Can't decipher parentage though, but the clusters seem to be nicely rounded. However, its like the Xth pink to magenta to violet flori by them many years in a row. Confusing. Where's the pizazz?
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The largest blooms I have had were on a well-established Mr. Lincoln during a warm spring which followed a wet winter.
As for your RR, it still surprises me that Fragrant Cloud was being used as a parent as late as 1999. RR won't grow for me in zone 5, alas.
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Hello, just for information I saw that there were 2 cards for Rosy Boom ® Rot & Rosy Boom ® Rouge ® roses, perhaps the 2 should be merged ?
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If I am understanding your comment properly, these are not two separate listings, rather synonyms for the same rose.
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4 days ago by
Huyustus
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Hello, yes, it's the same variety of rose. Kind regards, Huyustus
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2 days ago by
Huyustus
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Hello, I've sent you a message. I've deactivated the option because I've received some nasty messages. Huyustus
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Understood, sorry to learn this.
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I get those too. So, I turned mine to friend only, and when I would try to send to a friend, it would say they went private. Yet, they didn't. When I put mine back to public, sending a note to a friend on the friend list went through just fine.
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Perhaps the response to such messages could be to report the trolls to hmf admin. Unless they post anonymously.
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I had one that did until they figured out how to make an account. They go away. Its usually a reaction to posting information they don't like, or questioning such information. But I just post info, questions, and statements. HMF makes final calls. The replier can simply argue in public, but they don't because its vitriol. So I ignore it so it goes away, because I don't want to trash the site up. Roses are for peace, serenity, tranquility, amusement, bewilderment, and other such similar rare, abstract states of existence. HMF is also a resource for helping, as well stringing the historical record of roses together (and sometimes finding the lost fragments). So I simply don't feed the trolls. If not feeding them does not work, then I would definitely report them.
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