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'Folklore' rose Reviews & Comments
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The scent became apparent only today, a few days after the first cluster of flowers started unfurling. It is medium in strength and pretty boring in quality -- a sourish tea scent similar to what I can detect on Catherine Mermet (tea), Philippa Pirette (found tea) and Royal Highness (hybrid tea). I think of Folklore's uncompromising colour as quintessentially 1980s -- something to be enjoyed for nostalgic reasons rather than any intrinsic beauty! With my limited growing space, I plan to part from this rose in a few months' time.
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What is your opinion of the parent, 'Fragrant Cloud'? I like FC for both color and fragrance.
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#2 of 4 posted
19 JUN 23 by
Hamanasu
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Believe it or not, I have never seen FC in the flesh. From pictures, I like the form, and the colour has really grown on me over the years. I wish they grew it at the Queen Mother's rose garden in Regent's Park in London, so that I could smell it, but they don't. What's FC's fragrance like (that is, what does it smell of)? I grow neither Fragrant Cloud nor its parent Prima Ballerina, which is also, reputedly, strongly scented and I have always wondered if they smelt the same, or similar. In fact, I got Folklore because the RHS encyclopaedia of roses praised its scent, and I was hoping that if I got Folklore, I might know what Fragrant Cloud and Prima Ballerina smell like. But having now experienced and been disappointed by Folklore's fragrance, I doubt that the scent genes have carried through from either its parent or grandparent.
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I have an FC growing in my yard now in upstate NY. I also grew it about 20 years ago in CA. I remember it having what I would call a heavy fragrance, not really old rose, but not tea like either. I hope that makes sense. The color is a kind of brick reddish orange with red tones predominating. It does tend to blue as the blooms age, but that does not upset me. For me, it was vigorous and free blooming, flowers lasted about a week, as I recall. It has, for me, all the characteristics of a virtuous HT, fragrance, good color, and strong growth.
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#4 of 4 posted
20 JUN 23 by
Hamanasu
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Thank you very much.
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The 1990-91 catalogue of Rose Barni reports: cod. 01105 Folklore Selbar 0104.
In HMF the two numbers were mixed up as the Selbar number reported is 01105; it should be 0104.
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Almost four years later......(we do get there eventually)...we've changed that Selbar number from 01105 to 0104.
Thanks Cà Berta
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#2 of 2 posted
23 SEP 16 by
 Cà Berta
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Certainly my little comment did not give a major turn to the history of roses. Still, it is nice to see that HMF cares also for details. As for time, .... so much in front of us!Thanks Patricia
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I grew this rose a long time ago. Its a weird rose, so I'll do pros and cons.
Pros: Vigor. Rebloom. Fragrance. Form.
Cons: Prickles. Mildew (yes, even in Portland...), mild blackspot (in Portland). Wayyyy too tall.
...and the con hat bothered me: The orange stays, but its a washed out orange. It's weird.
It's an easy rose for a novice, due to the vigor. But its not orange. It's "orange".
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Is that Valencia, Joppa or Washington Navel orange?
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"washed out coral orange, with poor water resistance and likelihood to tear"
lol. ie. not close to any orange fruit color whatsoever. It is worse under artificial light.
Somewhat similar to 'Oktoberfest', but without the brilliance or petal resistances to the elements.
I put orange in quotes to imply that it was not orange, but the "orange" the producers are trying to imply the rose is. I cannot describe the color properly. But it is not like 'Artistry', 'Livin Easy', 'Salita'. 'Brass Band', and so on.
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I see. Thank you for the explanation Michael.
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28 MAR 13 by
goncmg
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This one is in a class by itself! How do you describe something that is taller than most climbers here in Columbus, OH 6a yet blooms like a traditional HT? Do you praise or loathe a fat, gorgeous bloom SINGLE atop a 6 foot CUTTING STEM? It isn't the most disease resistant----agree with a prior post that it does get blackspot----but in general, as measured against "most" I would say it is "rather resistant." Most growers in colder climates do not get to "enjoy" what growers in warmer/very warm climates do and that is roses of this size yet of this class...............here in 6a it very well may be killed near the ground in winter yet it will be about 8 feet or more tall by October............the leaves are deep green, huge, gorgeous..........the blooms can be spectacular in form albeit most often too small for the stem/cane...........it blooms more singularly than in clusters............it just needs huge, amazing amounts of space. And Uncle Walter and Cherry-Vanilla and Buccaneer are the only other 3 roses that I can think of that even come close to being what this one is...............huge, tall, amazingly tall...............and blooms ONLY at the TOPS of the stems.............is it a climber? A pillar? A Grandiflora???? I WOULD recommend this one for beginners if they can find it...........it truly is something else from the lovely, rather unique color to the insanely huge, vigorous, unclassifiable plant.....................it literally is a GIANT...........I am 6-3 and I remember being in college at OSU and walking through The Park of the Roses in Columbus and seeing this one and at 6-3 I had to BEND a stem down to see the bloom...............I bought it for my own garden afterwards and had the same experience.............30 years later in the Park that same bed is still there and it STILL gets 7-9-11 feet tall by the end of the season..............truly something else...............
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