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'Astra' rose Reviews & Comments
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Available from - For the love of roses
http://forloveofroses.com/
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Thanks. We've added this nursery to HelpMeFind and listed the roses you referenced. Please encourage the nursery owner to add their other roses and any other useful information about their nursery.
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I discovered a single bush of this rose thriving in a very shady part of Queen's Park, Invercargill, New Zealand (not in either of the rose gardens within the park). It was blooming nicely in early autumn. I'm suggesting it must have good shade tolerance.
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On your suggestion, I've added 'shade tolerant' to this rose. Thanks Keith for your observations.
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Eric and Patricia.......
Let's slow down here.
Eric, I honestly believe the rose you found in the shade is not 'Soroptimist International'. That rose has far more yellow, orange and red tones and even growing in shade would probably never have the almost lavender tones shown in your photo, so I think the rose in Queen's Park may be mislabeled.
A little history may help support the possibility of a mislabeled rose. In his early years of breeding and introducing roses to commerce, many of Frank's roses were never introduced in the US but were introduced in New Zealand, Australia and South Africa. Although Frank bred some very successful roses that were introduced in the US market and registered with the American Rose Society, these earlier roses were never registered. I have found very little documentation of these roses.
I did a quick run through of the roses we have listed as bred by Frank and have a couple of other candidates for the possible identification of the rose (any of these roses could fade to the color shown in the photo):
Moon River (miniature, Benardella 1997)
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.20720.0&tab=1
first sold in NZ 1994
Orchid Lace
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.22442.0
Pearl (mini, Benardella, 1996)
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=24980
The Australian patent date precedes the US patent date
It's possible you may find better documentation than I have found. Could you check ?
Smiles,
Lyn
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#3 of 5 posted
24 MAR 13 by
Tomartyr
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I wasn't familiar with this cultivar at all, so I was guided purely by the labelling (wish I had photographed it) which gave the impression the rose might have been donated by the Soroptimist International organisation.
In uploading the photo and commenting on the shade tolerance, I was conscious of the difference in colour difference from the other examples on HMF, but put it down to fading which I still think is quite possible. The poor light in which the photo was taken may also be a factor. Of your alternative suggestions, Lyn, I don't think it is 'Moon River' and I can't comment on 'Orchid Lace' because there are no photos available. 'Pearl' is a possibility.
I have emailed the Queen's Park rose curator with links to this site and discussion. It will be interesting to hear any opinion or reasoning he might have.
Cheers
Keith (not Eric! :-)
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Ooops.... sorry Keith.
Thank you for following up with Queen's Park.
Yes, it is possible that the hue in the photo is due to shade and lighting, but I am hoping it is one of the roses that were introduced in your part of the world and never seen in the U.S.
I do know that many of Frank's roses were used in the florist trade and were never available to the general public, but finding information about them isn't all that easy.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#5 of 5 posted
9 APR 13 by
Tomartyr
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I have received the following email reply from Robin Pagan, Parks Manager, Invercargill City Council: "Thank you for your enquiry regarding the rose 'Soroptimist International' growing in Queens Park Invercargill. The rose was supplied and donated by the the local Soroptimist Club. I am sorry we don't know which grower they got it from."
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May I have the contact of the author of the photo of Soroptimist Rose?
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The photo that shows on the rose page when you open it up comes up at random from the photos you find by clicking the "photos" tab, so I don't know which photo you are referring to in your post. However, you can contact the photo contributor by clicking on the contributor's name at the top of the photo. It will take you to a page where you can drop down to an email link where you can send a private email.
Smiles,
Lyn
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