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Discussion id : 139-164
most recent 9 MAR 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Who bred ‘Sheer Bliss’?
The 2000 reference says Jerry Twomey bred ‘Sheer Bliss.’
Other records say William Warriner bred it.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 9 MAR 23 by Johno
Believe there has been confusion between Sheer Bliss (JACtro) and Sheer Elegance (TWObe).

Check out the US and Australian plant patents for Sheer Bliss (JACtro):
USA: White Masterpiece X Grand Masterpiece.
Aust: Pristine X Unnamed Seedling

US patent for Sheer Elegance (TWObe)
Pristine X Fortuna (unpatented).

This suggests that maybe the Australian agent made a mistake with the paper work.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 9 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Sorry Johno, I can’t find my way around the Patents.
Dick Streeper was an American rosarian and I quote from the Internet:
“The San Diego Rose Society bestowed numerous honors on Mr. Streeper, including the Bronze Medal and designation as president emeritus in 2009. The American Rose Society honored him in 2004 with the Klima Medal for outstanding rose education. He served as regional and district director for the national society from 1988 to 1994.”

He was writing in an English magazine about Jerry Twomey and his roses. I have added one more paragraph to the 2000 reference: “much of his breeding programme is founded in ‘White Masterpiece’.” - coincidentally the seed parent of ‘Sheer Bliss‘.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 9 MAR 23 by jedmar
We have only 'Dream Pink' by Jerry Twomey having 'White Masterpiece' as a parent, but several roses from Warriner. Twomey's roses have the breeder code TWO... I think Dick Streeper has erred in his 2000 article
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 9 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Jedmar. I appreciate your thoughts.
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Discussion id : 131-410
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Initial post 25 JAN 22 by bsk
I tried to enroll for Premium membership however i think the transaction did not go ahead or possibly failed twice. I got a message that is has held Rs.1/- on my card and then reversed the entry. So please can you confirm.

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Reply #3 of 4 posted 22 FEB 22 by bsk
I tried again to pay for premium membership but the payment failed again.
What is the alternative method to pay ?

Regards
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Discussion id : 9-588
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Initial post 15 JUL 05 by Donna Williamson
My Sheer Bliss is a big disappointment this year. The growth, in general, is stunted and the blooms are greenish white and deformed. Is this a condition I can correct or has this rose reached the end of its life?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 6 AUG 09 by John Moody
How old is your plant?? Also, is it own rooted or is it a grafted rose??? Own root bushes tend to live longer as the graft of budded roses sometimes almost seems to "burn out" and the rose begins to decline and eventually die. A grafted rose generally does very well for 10-12 years and then you might start to see the decline has been my experience. An own root bush however can live for many years. I have neighbor with a Peace bush that is 40+years old and still going strong.
If your bush is still relatively young, your problem could be nutritional in nature. It could be that it needs more or a different fertilizer.
Lastly, I would suggest to check the root system out as best as you can to make sure there is no crown gall or any type of pest problem disturbing the roots.
I hope this helps,

Good Gardening,
John
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 MAY 14 by Anita silicon valley
I notice you are not far from me in Calif. I live in the San Francisco Bay area ( silicon valley ). My Sheer Bliss hasn't done much at all past few years in spite of roses next to it thriving. It was lots better years ago; it may be time for me to dig it up since it got rust lately when almost none of my other roses did.
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Discussion id : 14-046
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Initial post 15 SEP 06 by Anonymous-105390
I'm not quite sure what "zone 7 and higher" mean...does it mean zones 7-11 or zones 1-7 ?Thanks !
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 15 SEP 06 by RoseBlush

Yes, that is what it means.  However, in the coldest zones, it doesn't hurt to bury the bud union as an extra caution to protect it from winter freezing.


Smiles,


Lyn, helpmefind.com

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Reply #2 of 4 posted 16 SEP 06 by Anonymous-105390
thanks Lyn, did you mean zones 1-7 ? if so, how would it do in zone 9?
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 16 SEP 06 by RoseBlush

The rose is rated to grow in zones 7 - 11. By that definition, it means that this particular cultivar is too tender to grow in zones 1-6.  My suggestion to bury the bud union in the colder zones ( 7 - 8 ) is to protect the graft from freezing during the winter.  If the ground does not freeze in your zone, you do not need to bury the bud union.  Zone 9 is on the warmer end of the zone scale, so you should not need to bury the bud union.


There are a lot of right ways to grow roses.  Also, each and every rose is different.  Each zone has micro-climates.  These are things you need to take into consideration.  You may live in Zone 9 , but your garden may be at an elevation which makes it colder than temps reported for Zone 9. 


I have some roses in my garden that I know are rated to grow in a colder zone, but I still buried the bud unions on those roses I know are tender.  That is because I live in the mountains, and my rose garden is at the bottom of a slope.  I know that cold air travels down the slope, so that part of my garden is colder than other parts of the property.  It's not necessary, but it also hasn't hurt any of the roses I planted this way.  I just happen to be cautious because I don't know when we are going to have a winter that is way colder than the norm. It's the only winter protection I provide for my plants. Other rosarians don't bother with this step. 


I also am careful not to place plants near a wall that will reflect heat during the summer because we go through weeks of temps in the triple digits.  I have found that I have less disease and insect problems this way, so I don't have any climbing roses growing up trellises next to walls.


Each gardener finds what works in their garden. As you garden, you get a feel for the space and placement of plants.  You can follow other people's wise advice and the plants will just up and die on you.  In my opinion, every rose you plant in your garden is something of an experiment.  If you start with a rose that likes your climate and is healthy, provide sufficient water and nutrients, it should do well.  Please note the word "should".  Every gardener makes mistakes or has plants that do not perform as expected.  As you have done here, you try to get the best information possible to give yourself a better chance of success.


If a rose doesn't do well for you, there are thousands of other roses to try.  I wish you the best of luck.


Smiles,


Lyn, helpmefind.com


 

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Reply #4 of 4 posted 10 NOV 06 by John Moody
It means 7 through 11
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