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'Orafantanov' rose Reviews & Comments
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Or never get named, or perhaps renamed. Hows this Australian list for starters (there are a few familiar breeder/distributor names that keep cropping up):
1998
Star Most Disease tolerant Meilland/
1999
91-16366 Bronze Bear Creek/
2000
BB/12G/89 Silver. Best shrub Austin/
Int B254-95 Silver Interplant/Grandiflora Nurs
92-21933 Bronze Bear Creek
Soupir Bronze Meilland
Trafic Cert of Merit Meilland/
Trefle Cert of Merit. Most Fragrant Meilland
Urgence Cert of Merit Meilland
Trema Most Pest resistance Meilland
2001
JACbutse [yellow/pink flori – Bed 18 Bronze Bear Creek
2002
FRYlionit Cert of Merit. Fryer/Swane
CHEWflorex Cert of merit Warner/Oakes
2003
Ranch (fl. Pink to white) Gold Meilland/Swane
2004
ENTrain Bronze Meilland/
WEKhadsac Bronze Weeks/
2005
GT Bronze. Most frag. Guillot/The Rose Gdn
(bed no. 17) 96-04305 Bronze- no name to enter J&P/Swane
JACoddes Cert of merit. Best HT J&P/Swane
2006
FIOcon Silver, Most Disease tolerant Meill/Corp
[sent email. No resolution] 9809262 Cert of Merit J&P/Swane
2007
D 782 Bronze. Best HT Fryer/Swane
98-06544 Bronze J&P/Swane
2008
H414 Bronze Harkness/Brundrett
FAUcille Bronze Meill/Corp
IMPlex Bronze Meill/Corp
2009
M 192 Bronze Fryer/Swanes
98-05603 Bronze J&P/Swanes
L 775 Bronze Fryer/Swanes
00-05223 Cert of Merit J&P/Swanes
5463-99-7 Cert of Merit Meill/Corp
99-05-841 Cert of Merit J&P/Swanes
2010
MOSaik Gold. Best flor Meill/Corp
DUO Bronze Meill/Corp
PEAgateau-Lan Bronze Limes/Lansdale
[cream flori] H419 Bronze Harkness/Knight
JAC 99-00282 Bronze J&P/Swane
PEAkey-Lan Cert of Merit Limes/Lansdale
2011
ORA 1945 Bronze, Orard/Swanes
Peakvass LAN-2-09 Cert of Merit Limes/Lansdale
TAN-217 Cert of Merit Rosen Tantau/Knight’s
KGT-03 Cert of Merit Trimper/Trimper
Peajolly-LAN-6-09 Cert of Merit Limes/Lansdale
2012
MEIdrange Cert of Merit Meilla/Corporate
PEAhansome Cert of Merit Limes/Lansdale
2013
DAIkin Silver Meilland/Corp
00-05252 Bronze Zary/Swanes
OPPeln Bronze Meilland/Corp
02-01155 Bronze Zary/Swanes
MAMours (HT) Bronze Meilland/Corp
01-02063 Cert of Merit Zary/Swanes
03-02525 Cert of Merit Zary/Swanes
KGT 04 Cert of Merit Trimper/Trimper
[dark pink mini] >Limesfeuer? PEAjumbo (LAN-2-11-NN). Cert of Merit Limes/Lansdale
2014
AM807 / MELOW Silver Medal Meilland/Corp.
AM807 / MELOW Irwin Award Meilland
BRUnrose Silver Medal Brundrett
BRUnjames Certificate of Merit Brundrett
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20 MAY 18 by
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I noticed the lack of official naming as well...it's odd
With some of them I assume it's because there's a "similar" plant with more international fame (although often had a lower medal or no medal at all) and that's having a big influence on our market here rather than the better performers becoming the new "standard".
Seems like such a waste when a gold medal or most disease resistant plant isn't released and raises the question of what's the point of the trial if the "best" just up and disappear.
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Unfortunately, awards don't always give way to sales. The breeder has to hope a rose is not only good enough, but that it also catches the eye of the wholesaler, internal marketing dept., or big box store buyer. It's an arduous process that is not for the feint of heart. It is quite common that non-rosarians make most of the choices concerning commercial introductions. People that know absolutely nothing about roses. Most roses, and even the best, go into the waste bin of time and space, unfortunately.
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This one was actually in wide release by Weeks a few years ago. I still grow it, but it has a Major fault in my view, which is that it immediately looks old on the plant as soon as it opens. Like Betty Boop, its stamens almost immediately turn black.
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Robert calls that the ash tray look :D
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It is a lot prettier and more dramatic, in person, than Rhapsody in Blue or Night Owl. I think it is a better grower, too. When in bloom, I think it is even more dramatic than Purple Splash, despite its stripes, because the blooms are highly present and pleasing. The plant seems nice, too, with the bristles smelling like Westerland's bristles, which I find kind of unique for a modern mauve rose.
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27 DEC 15 by
styrax
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Home Depo had a few, very nice plants of this. Wished I had saved them. They set hips well too. I think it is worth looking into: http://www.rosebreeders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55260&sid=b23c5bb6c8367e4459075f9ccb1df7e5
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I already have seedlings from it ^_^ I have "kept" seedlings of Heart n Soul, too.
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Are you growing it as a climber or as a shrub?
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I moved on from it as I have a superior seedling from it. When I had it, I whacked it down to the ground each winter and treated it as a free-standing shrub.
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Thanks, Michael. How big did it get each year treated that way, and did it seem worth the trouble of doing so compared to growing commercially available non-climber alternatives? I find the flower color and form quite attractive in photos, more so than the competitors that I have seen, but I don't have a spot for it as a climber.
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Sorry for the very late response. I don't always see things.
It was worth it. Quite easy to prune it in the winter to very short stems. It was worth it, because it was not only novel and easy, but also because it was more heat tolerant than most roses. I had it in a place where I water less and that proved to be helpful. Something about it -- super thick petals and sand-papery foliage -- seemed helpful. Blue For You shrieks at the very thought of 90F+ weather.
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How do the blooms stand up to heat and sun? Do they last well, or do they fry? I'm in Tuscany, Italy; the sun is really ferocious here.
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27 DEC 15 by
NikosR
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In a post in Gardenweb Antique Roses Forum, Prof. Ioannis Tzanetakis of the University of Arkansas, reported on 12/26/2015 that in greenhouse tests conducted amongst 20 rose genotypes, Stormy Weather appeared resistant (no disease symptoms, no virus replication) to the Rose Rosette Virus. Field trials are to follow. http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3575226/resistance-to-rose-rosette-virus?n=9
I believe this finding, if confirmed and followed through, might lead to important advances with regards both to virus research and rose breeding.
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