Planted feb 2006 in solid clay, dug big hole, filled with good soil etc after onbe year had to dig up and refill hole with more or less solid clay as hole acted as a big pot mme isaac was waterlogged all winter
dec 2010 much happier and growing on terrace pillar, east side, but never totally abundant in growth, flowers well, blackspot, was to be expected! Took cutting in 2009, now planted in bed south/kitchen doors interesting to see how different she behaves on her own and not trained.