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'Jack Frost' rose Reviews & Comments
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This discussion mentions the patent for the "Jack Frost" hybrid tea rose. Here is a link to the patent: https://patents.justia.com/patent/PP7382 It is indeed a hybrid tea, I have owned two (purchased from a Carlton Rose Nurseries distributor, which came with patent tags). It is a white (not "white blend" color). I've been searching in vain for another one, but have found only the same "misinformation" about the characteristics (and no true original "Jack Frosts" available anywhere.) But wanted to take the time to give you first hand information.
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11 NOV 19 by
jedmar
The patent USPP 7382 is for 3038-c or 'Cascade', a descendant of 'Jack Frost'.
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In Western Australia Ruth Hoskins passed a rose on to Rose Marsh and in 2003 Rose posted me over a cutting. All three of us were under the impression for a good while that it was 'Jack Frost'. I now believe that this bush is 'Iceberg'. I have today uploaded a photo from a 1981 catalogue under the name of 'Jack Frost'. Checking with the nursery today, they cannot guarantee the veracity of this photo.
I have had a look at the U.S. Patent for 'Jack Frost' and as far as I can see: Foliage: Iceberg shiny. Jack Frost matte Bloom: Iceberg 24 petals. Jack Frost 38 to 48 Clusters: Iceberg 3 to 12 blooms. Jack Frost from 1 to 3 blooms. Hips. Iceberg oval-ish. Jack Frost conspicuous neck and a bit pear-shaped.
'Jack Frost's seed parent was the old florist rose 'Garnette' and I think this had many tightly rolled back petals. It seems this trait might have been passed on to 'Jack Frost'. It would be good to have clearer photos of 'Jack Frost' in the files.
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18 SEP 06 by
digger
Jack Frost has been very disappointing. Jack is very winter tender and not a vigorous grower. Touted as strongly fragrant by some sources, I have to stick my nose in a bloom to detect any aroma. JF will produce a dozen or so blooms per flush but 80 percent will ball (never fully open). Perhaps Jack is a better rose in warmer climes but I don't advise anyone in a cold climate to try growing this one. That was my comment from back in 2004. Didn't realize it was anonymous. The comment still applies. JF just doesn't seem to like zone 4/5 winters. Deb won't let me dig it up. Gemini and Livin' Easy are planted on either side and are among our best performing roses.
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Why is Jack Frost classified as both a floribunda and a hybrid tea? Is the color always pur white or is there a very pale yellow cast or shading sometimes? The rose I bought said it was Jack Frost --- but there is that extremely pale yellow at the bottom and on the outer row of bottom petals.
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30 AUG 06 by
Wendy C
I can't answer as to why this rose is classified as both floribunda and hybrid tea. As to the color, look at the photos under the listing. There is a hint of yellow on the ones I posted. I found it to be a delightful white rose. Unfortunately I lost it over this last Winter. I wish you great luck with it.
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'Jack Frost' is a floribunda. I have corrected the error. Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention Smiles, Lyn, helpmefind.com
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