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'Eugène Beauharnais' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 153-914
most recent 8 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 NOV by Orianne Courmes
Available from - Roses Loubert
https://www.pepiniere-rosesloubert.com/catalogue,3/prince-eugene-beauharnais,994136.html
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Discussion id : 129-983
most recent 6 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 DEC 21 by Hamanasu
Might EdB be Monsieur Bocenne?
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Discussion id : 123-975
most recent 21 NOV 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 NOV 20 by eihblin
A few years ago I tried this rose own-root; it was a disaster. It defoliated completely from disease and refused to grow. However the few blooms the extremely puny plant put out were indeed beautiful.I read the comments on this site and wonder if it's the same rose, lol! Is it possible that I just got a dud plant? Has anyone else had bad experience with this rose? I am wondering if it's worth while to try it again,maybe grafted?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 20 NOV 20 by Kim Rupert
Budding this rose (and MANY OTHERS) makes ALL the difference. It may grow acceptably where the conditions and climate suit it, but where they don't, it isn't good. As you experienced, it defoliated from disease, which may or may not be a result of its not having a sufficient root system under it. Lack of roots causes nutrient deficiencies as well as possible water stress, both of which can easily result in disease issues. It's unfortunate that producers offer varieties own root which should not be offered that way. Just because it CAN be done, does not mean it SHOULD be. In my old Newhall garden, EdB grew and flowered well own root, but the disease pressures there were usually quite low with much of the season being hot and arid. A friend closer to the coast here in California lamented her love for the rose but added it was horrible in her climate. I budded one for her on virus indexed Fortuniana and gave it to her. She frequently posts photos of it to on line forums and praises it as finally performing as she had always wished it would due to the vigor of its "artificial roots". Which stock you should try depends upon where you are and what performs best in your conditions, but, yes, it is definitely worth trying the plant budded. Not this variety, but as an example of the difference budding can make, the photo I've included is of two Grey Pearl plants. They were produced by Sequoia Nursery and grew in their greenhouses in Visalia, CA. We had the discussion of the differences between weak growers own root and budded, so they provided this example. Both were propagated from the same original plant, at the same time, grown in the same sized pots, in the same soil, side by side in the green house. The beautiful plant behind the chlorotic one is budded. The stunted, yellowed runt of a plant in front is the same variety but own root. Is the difference this dramatic with every rose? No. CAN it be this dramatic with roses which appear to refuse to grow? VERY often.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 21 NOV 20 by eihblin
Thank you so much, Kim! It's quite possible that my own-root E de B also just didn't get a fair start; that was back in the days at our old house,where there was no good place for potted roses; the conditions out in my garden are very, very tough and it's best that a plant has a well-developed root system before it goes out there.But I'm not a particular fan of own-root plants; experience has shown that ,if planted correctly (with the graft at or SLIGHTLY below ground level) many, many roses will "go own root" on their own ,so often by starting out with a grafted plant I can get the best of both worlds. So I guess I'll eventually be looking around for a grafted E de B...
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 21 NOV 20 by Kim Rupert
You're welcome, Eileen! Nice to see you, BTW! I presume you continue having a "Thanksgiving" dinner, even though you are not in the country? If so, blessings for a happy, healthy and safe one! I'd think, your being in Italy, your ability to find a Eugene budded is probably a great deal stronger than ours here. I was getting ready to suggest you contact either Freedom Gardens or Wisconsin Roses to have one budded for you (after you arrange for the bud wood to be sent to them, of course), but Europe has sources who likely already bud it. You should be good to go! Good luck! Kim
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Discussion id : 8-301
most recent 12 JUN 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 APR 05 by Marina's Garden. Crawfordville, FL
Does anybody have an experience with this rose? What is the growth habit? How does it repeat? Any desease issues? Thank you. Marina
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 19 JUL 05 by Unregistered Guest
I started two of them this season. The place I garden is in Orange County, CA. The plants are still babies, but have been prolific bloomers, incredible fragrance and completely clean, and this has been a bad year for rust and mildew in our area. It will take a season or so for the plants to establish, but based on the last 5 months experience, I would highly recommend this rose.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 JUN 15 by boopie
I planted a band in February 2015. Have already had two flushes of blooms. The fragrance is gorgeously intense. The color and form of the flower is beautiful, Have been growing in part sun/shade. Really happy with this one.
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