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'Old Velvet Moss' rose Reviews & Comments
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All descendants in later generations than the first are from: 12-59-10 (moss hybrid, Moore 1959)
Pinocchio x William Lobb
I wonder why the others weren't used.
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#1 of 4 posted
22 OCT 15 by
styrax
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Fertility most likely. He did use them, but they never wound up into his lineages (with the exception of Orange Moss)
I heard it, on it's own merit, is actually a fair rose. It also passed down repeat "reliably", the others always threw some once-bloomers, and mixed well with china/wich/polyantha based mini genes
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#2 of 4 posted
22 OCT 15 by
styrax
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Or rather, it is in the modern mosses only because fate dictated that it made Fairy Moss, a key parent. No other significant f1's.
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23 OCT 15 by
 Jay-Jay
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ARDluna and Princesse de Parme are looking good. And the first-one is very disease-resistant too!
I'm curious, what my own William Lobb seedling will do.
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Hi i would be interessed in ’ Princesse de Parme’ if possible.
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Collectionneur de plantes britanique habitant en Californie 1809 - 1864
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Duchesse d'strie (autre nom de William Loob)
La Maréchale Bessières, Duchesse d'Istrie, née Marie-Jeamme Lapeyrière, 1781 – 1840
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of course I knew when I planted it that it was spring-only, but it seems to have short flower-life and a short flowering season in my garden. Is that the experience of others?
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It is interesting you say that Margaret because I grow this rose as a climber together with 'Aschermittwoch' and I was slightly disappointed that they do not flower together for a longer time although it was very hot and dry in June. 'Mousseux du Japon' was similar, my disappointment being greater because it is such an ugly rose as well.
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#2 of 7 posted
24 NOV 18 by
Jay-Jay
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In a bit cooler year, it flowers for weeks in a row (a month as one might see looking at my photo's of this rose made in 2015) in my garden... And yes, the flowers last just a few days, whilst changing color.
This year almost no flowering due to the storm-damage.
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Too hot a climate here, perhaps. I've realised the rose books are right: Centifolia muscosa is the best moss.
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I photographed an inflorescence on November 21. I hope to remember to photograph it progressively over the next fortnight or so. But it is still cool here and I gather hot there.
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No, we've had one nasty hot day and then wind, hail and RAIN. Still cool for the next week. But I don't think Wm Lobb will flower for more than a fortnight, and Laneii doesn't look as if it will do much better.
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What about 'Nuits de Young' if you wanted a dark moss rose?
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Thanks for the suggestion. Alas, it's not time for me to increase the number of roses I grow!
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