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'Hugo Roller' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 94-375
most recent 23 MAY 20 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 AUG 16 by Give me caffeine
Got to sniff the first blooms on mine this morning.

Chapman et al says of this rose: 'Fragrance is a moderately strong, dry, fruity Tea, with sharp and woody undertones.' That's not a bad description, IMO. The 'sharp' tones are not at all unpleasant. Quite the opposite. More spicy than biting. I'm not sure I'd call the overall scent dry. I got the impression of richness. However, it's definitely a fruity Tea, but with added extras that are well worth having.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 22 MAR 18 by billy teabag
Sometimes 'Hugo Roller' has a tobacco-ish smell in its cache of scents. Not the dry smell of cigarettes - more like pipe tobacco. Does your nose pick that up? General terms like 'woody' and 'resinous' probably cover it but to my nose it is a warm and gorgeously rich scent.
Lorraine Lee often has a bit of this scent too.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 APR 18 by Give me caffeine
Been a while since I had a sniff but, from memory, that sounds about right.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 23 MAY 20 by Give me caffeine
I've just been sniffing mine this morning and yes, that's not a bad description of the scent. Another way of putting it would be to say it smells like a rose, but with a little bit of lapsang souchong. It's a nice mix.

It has decided it likes winter, with only morning sun. The bloody thing is actually making good-looking flowers now, although it has been overcast the past few days. I'll be interested to see if they start burning again now that the sun is back. They do seem to be very sensitive to UV levels.
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Discussion id : 105-478
most recent 10 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
Editing this, since I've changed my mind again.

The main point is that in my area (latitude around 28 degrees South) this rose is an absolute disaster in full sun. It's just ugly.

The foliage and scent are good, and the lack of thorns is great, but the blooms look abysmal. They are fine when just starting to open, but very rapidly go downhill after that. We're talking seriously gruesome and manky flowers, even in early spring before the real heat and UV hit.

Since flowers are the main reason for growing roses, planting Hugo Roller in full sun in these latitudes is an exercise in futility. Don't do it. The problem is that I did it. This was a bad idea.

I have tried cutting them early for display in a vase, but that's not very successful. The buds and partially opened blooms are ok, but in my opinion are not that appealing. The blooms will slowly open indoors, and can look very good, but then have only a short vase life before going off.

So, I have a rose that in its current location will primarily be an eyesore in the garden, while not being that good for display in a vase. It makes more sense to use the space for something else.

However, Hugo Roller is nicely free of thorns, and has a very good scent, along with the typical Tea robustness in this climate. The flowers will stay looking good as long as they are protected from sunlight while opening, so I'm going to bite the bullet and find a semi-shaded spot for it. This is definitely not something I wanted to do (too many other things lined up) but I think it is worth doing.

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Update on this (February 2020). I did eventually go ahead and move Hugo Roller, which gave it quite a shock and set it back badly for a while. However it is bouncing back now and is starting its first flush since being transplanted.

The new location is in an old bath tub, in a spot that only gets morning sun, and is shaded by a large tree from midday on. This seems to be a success. The first bloom has been out for a few days now, and hasn't developed the horrible colouring and form that they used to get when the bush was in full sun all day.

So, it seems that Hugo Roller will be quite presentable in the sub-tropics as long as you only give it morning sun. Semi-shade all day would presumably work just as well.
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Discussion id : 98-237
most recent 29 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 MAR 17 by Give me caffeine
Not impressed with this one so far. I think it needs to be planted in semi-shade. Full sun really does not suit it.

Am still inclined to think Rosette Delizy is the better rose, if you want something that looks similar.
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Discussion id : 68-442
most recent 5 OCT 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 26 NOV 12 by hebe
For me, it's flowers are lovely in partial shade (under a jacaranda), but an unattractive colour, or burn, in full sun.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 OCT 16 by Give me caffeine
I think the effect I'm seeing on mine is what you are talking about in your comment. The petals go sort of manky and malformed. Not burned brown but just scruffy, for want of a better term. Also, the pink tones turn into a harsh lurid colour, which would really only look good at midnight on a new moon.

In other words, this rose looks like crap in full sun.

I have a jacaranda, but it's only a baby and not big enough to shade anything yet. However, I do have a quite sizable ylang ylang. I may move Hugo to the south-eastern side of the ylang ylang this winter, and see if it looks better with just morning sun.

The space left by removing Hugo can be filled by Marquise de Vivens, which is on order now.
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