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'Cels Multiflora' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 167-199
most recent 16 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 MAY by odinthor
The statement in the Description section that it is a seedling of 'Triomphe du Luxembourg' is a misunderstanding of the 1836 Annales de Flore quote that it and two other roses are "children of the Luxembourg." The quote means that the three roses were raised (by Hardy) at the Luxembourg Palace gardens, not that they are seedlings from 'Triomphe du Luxembourg'.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 16 MAY by Nastarana
The HMF entry has this rose being raised by Francois Cels. Was it perhaps raised by either Hardy or Cels, and then introduced by the other?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 16 MAY by odinthor
Yes, that's how I construe the quote. Here's my translation: "“Flower medium-sized, charmingly colored pink with marbling; the bush blooms constantly and abundantly. These three roses [among which is ‘Cels Multiflore’], children of the Luxembourg, are being propagated in the establishment of the Cels Bros.”

"Children of the Luxembourg" essentially means "Hardy or one of his underlings raised them at the Luxembourg."
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 16 MAY by jedmar
Agreed, parentage removed. In the case of 'Archiduchesse Thérèse Isabelle', one of the three roses mentioned in the reference, the attribution to Barbot as breeder by Gravereaux seems questionable too.
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Discussion id : 87-899
most recent 18 SEP 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 SEP 15 by scvirginia
There is a snippet view of a reference to 'Cels Multiflora' in the 1988 American Rose Annual, Vol 73, p. 68. I wonder if anyone who has access to that annual can complete the reference?

This is the start of the reference:
Several other bourbon-chinas still in collections include 'Cels Multiflora' (1838); with flowers in cluster the buds open flesh to bright pink and are pointed. Flowers open blush pink, deeper in the center, full, cupped, fading off to blush white.

Thanks,
Virginia
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 SEP 15 by Patricia Routley
Added (with the author), but that's all there was.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 18 SEP 15 by scvirginia
Many thanks... I couldn't tell if there was more, and didn't want to add an incomplete reference. I did think the Bourbon China idea was of interest, though, and worth adding.
Virginia
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