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'Flutterbye ™' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 75-782
most recent 6 JUL 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 DEC 13 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
Tom's R. soulieana derivative is listed on HMF with the following parentage. Zorina x [R. soulieana x Europeana] x Sunsprite. I'm assuming that is the properly attributed pollen parent of Flutterbye.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 JAN 17 by Michael Garhart
There are two. One with Sunsprite and one with Trumpeter. The remaining (Zorina, Rosa soul., and Europeana) portion is the same.

See: All Ablaze and Watercolors Home Run.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 JUL 18 by Michael Garhart
I guess there were 3, one with ...I think it was Royal Gold..?? that never made it into anything important.
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Discussion id : 34-513
most recent 28 JAN 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 6 MAR 09 by Jeff Britt
My only complaint against Flutterbye is that is always classified at rose "nurseries" as a "shrub." Accordingly and following the guidance provided by a local seller of roses, I recommended Flutterbye to a friend who planted it as a shrub in a mixed rose shrub border. You can imagine her surprise when Flutterbye produced huge, rocketing growths that only flowered at end of the growth the first year. She was convinced that the rootstock had taken over and that "suckers" had taken over Flutterbye's section of the rose border.
THIS IS NOT A SHRUB. It is a climber, or at a minimum a shrub that needs to be pegged down. It produces long, vigorous and fiercely pricked canes on a regular basis. This makes for a rather wild looking plant in late summer, with a more in-control scaffolding of shrub (flowering very nicely, I might add), with wild looking water sprouts shooting off in all directions. It is a wonderful rose -- vigorous, free flowering and disease-free, but it is NOT a plant to be treated like a typical shrub rose. Either give it room to sprawl about in its own way, or treat it like a climber (which I don't think it would like). And remember -- it has lots and lots of prickles. It was a pain in the derriere to move for my friend this winter. It now resides in her garden where it has room to do its thing, and well away from her more controlled shurb rose border. I sure wish I'd known its true character before!
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 28 JAN 17 by Michael Garhart
Would have been better marketed as a shrub. Well, rather a pillar, as it grew here in Oregon. It's a better rose than Joseph's Coat (lots of diseases, twiggy stems) and Jacob's Robe (a lot of prickles and BS).

Also, exhibitors love single-petaled climbers with huge, round sprays, shiny foliage, and straight stems.

Only rose I have seen that competes for best spot for yellow-changing-red pillar type would be 'The Magician', which is similar, but more bendy and slightly taller.
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Discussion id : 92-371
most recent 24 APR 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 APR 16 by Unregistered Guest
Available from - Morris Nursery, Riverbank, CA
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Discussion id : 35-375
most recent 24 APR 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 7 APR 09 by anonymous-223802
Available from - Brushwood Nursery
http://gardenvines.com/shop/
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 APR 09 by Unregistered Guest
Summer Winds nursery has FLUTTERBYE on sale now, and it classifies it as a climber. It has the colors of JOSEPH's COAT combined with the petal form of ALTISSIMO !
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