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'Drap d'Or' rose Reviews & Comments
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Could someone here provide some background on the found rose, Dr M D Hinman? Thank you! -Gregg Lowery
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Nothing in the references, but the "legacy of" part of the name sounded familiar, and so I checked the photos, and found the caption below. There are several rose photos associated with the caption. Hope this helps.
"Found rose called "Dr. Hinman's Yellow Climber", thought to be Chromatella. April 3 2010, Sacramento Historic Rose Garden."
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Thanks very much for your help. I'll have a conversation with Anita Clevenger and see if she can get the story of that collection of the rose. It would be good to have the information on this page. I expect that many of the found roses are having a difficult time being uploaded to HMF because the original discoverers have not posted information. Cheers, Gregg
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Sadly, HMF has far too many found rose records that are less complete than they could be. I hope you can find out more to share with us...
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I will share whatever I can find out with this thread, and I hope it will be worthy information.
Thank you for helping me out!
Gregg
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I was checking to see what other roses are "legacy of", and noticed that we have another record for this rose, and Mel Hulse left a note in Feb. 2007 saying that the rose was "found in the El Dorado Hills Cemetery".
I wonder how certain people are about the 'Chromatella' ID. If there is unanimity, I should merge the records, but if there is doubt, perhaps I should move the photos out of the 'Chromatella' record.
Virginia
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Billy Teabag says that people here call any yellow climber Cloth of Gold (and any red one Black Boy). I see that Italy and Portugal have Cl White Maman Cochet mislabelled as this rose.
We need someone who grows it in France, its country of origin and surely with places where it would thrive, to post detailed ID-type photos please.
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5 NOV 23 by
 Lee H.
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Margaret, it is not only Italy and Portugal. Here in the US, about four years ago, Rose Petals Nursery was selling (steeply discounted) something they called “Peter Beales Chromatella”, so I thought for $7, I’d take a chance; it is hard to find here. It was almost certainly White Climbing Maman Cochet, and quite underwhelming in my garden. I didn’t keep it.
I don’t blame the nursery…I believe they were probably supplied the wrong rose, and just trying to minimize their losses. But this may be a clue as to the origins of the mix-up.
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That's a pity: Cl White Maman Cochet can be stunning where it's suited, and when it's in a good mood.
An 1881 reference states that Cloth of Gold was very hard to strike from cuttings. It still is.
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5 NOV 23 by
Lee H.
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Actually, neither rose is suited to my climate, but after reading Rivers’ wonderful description of his first encounter with ‘Cloth of Gold’, I knew I would go to any extreme to see those “golden bells” for myself. Not so for Maman Cochet, though I am certain it has its charms in the proper locale.
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There exists and old apple variety in Europe that's called Drap d'Or too.
Just take a look on Wikimedia, or in Google pictures, for I can't upload the link.
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Commenting further on Bonita’s photo of ‘Chromatella’ grown at Highfields, Queensland.
Bonita, I am struck by tha deep yellow at the base of the bud and the green pedicels. Other photos show some red on the bud and reddish pedicels. These traits may be a result of your growing conditions, but can you tell us more about the rose please, including its provenance?
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7 MAY 19 by
bonbon
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I think I purchased it in 2003/2004 from Perrotts Nursery in Brisbane.
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Thanks for that Bonbon. Your last photo was such a deep yellow that I thought it might be 'Duchesse d'Auerstädt‘, but I see you also have that rose as well. Have you ever seen your ‘Chromatella show any violet-purple new canes?
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