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Discussion id : 45-118
most recent 26 MAY 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 MAY 10 by kev
what i would like to know is,'How can a rose such as this one ,be listed as being medium red and at the same time being listed here several lines later as being pink and yellow blend'.This i find here to be endlessly annoying.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 24 MAY 10 by HMF Admin
This is a common problem; conflicting descriptions from different resources.

This (hopefully) is the advantage of HMF - getting input from multiple resources along with feedback from site members actually growing the plant.

We really need more site guests to share their experience.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 25 MAY 10 by Cass
It's hard for growers to share their experience when the rose is known to exist in only a single garden in Europe.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 25 MAY 10 by HMF Admin
Another reason for site's guests to share their experience - maybe that's not the only place this rose exists.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 25 MAY 10 by Margaret Furness
A number of reasons for different descriptions of colour have been mentioned on HMF in the past. Words used for colours change with time; a rose called red in Europe before the advent of the Chinas wouldn't be called so today. Translations from other languages may not be as simple as they look. Individual perceptions of colours differ; my neighbour has a foundling rose which he insists is red, whereas to my eyes it's the same colours as Mme Isaac Pereire. When you read the sequence of catalogue descriptions of a rose over time, you can often spot when another rose entered circulation under the wrong name. There is the habit of rose firms to re-use a rose name. And there are always no-hopers who think it's funny and original to move labels around in public gardens, so incorrect photos get posted. You just have to work around it.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 26 MAY 10 by HMF Admin
"no-hopers" ?
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 26 MAY 10 by Margaret Furness
Old Australian slang (yes I know, I've complained about use of slang in an international forum before). "People who are never going to achieve anything in their lives" might be a reasonable translation. Any advance on that from my compatriots?
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 26 MAY 10 by Simon Voorwinde
'no-hopers' = 'losers' :)
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 26 MAY 10 by Margaret Furness
Close, but not quite - the fault, dear Brutus, is not in their stars, but in themselves...
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