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'Étude' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hello,
I tink that this is the same: Pink Perptue = Etude
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16 JAN 17 by
 jedmar
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Good point! The references list them separately and most people have either 'Etude' or 'Pink Perpetue'. Still, if they are not siblings, then the photos are very similar. Stirling Macoboy says in "The Ultimate Rose Book" (1993): It is not often that a raiser puts out two roses from the same parentage in the same year, but that is what Walter Gregory did in 1965, with 'Pink Perpetue' and 'Etude'. Maybe someone who has both roses can comment.
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Think it's going to be very difficult to find even a difference in the two.
The regular commercial firms they use both names for the same rose.
So I'm eager if there really is someone who still knows what the difference is.
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I do grow 'Etude'. In my zone 5 yard it has every virtue except blooming, which has been very occasional. Foliage is handsome and disease free, it survives the winter well, and grows back in spring quickly. So far, we have had a zone 6 winter, so barring polar vortex events in Feb and March, it may also bloom well next summer. The growth habit for me has been very like that of the HT 'Mr. Lincoln'. Strong, well armed stalks grow straight up, and branch from points about 2-3' above the crown. 'Etude' would, I think, be excellent for zones 6-8; I don't know why it is not more popular.
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I have more references to add, eventually. But in the meantime, it seems there were two roses.
1965. Australian Rose Annual
p20. E. F. Allen. Awards to New Rose Seedlings in Great Britain in 1964.
Etude (Danse du Feu’ x ‘New Dawn’). I think very highly indeed of this large-flowered semi-climber by Gregory. The rose pink, rather flat flowers have the reverse of the petals a deeper shade and they possess all the charm of an old rose. It seems to be one of the most free-flowering of all perpetual climbers and a great asset in a new garden.
1965. Australian Rose Annual
p20. E. F. Allen. Awards to New Rose Seedlings in Great Britain in 1964.
Pink Perpetue (‘Danse du Feu’ x ‘New Dawn’). This sister seedling of ‘Etude’ received its certificate in 1963 but has only recently been named. It has all the attractive qualities of its sister, with flowers of a slightly paler, softer pink, with carmine reverse. I shall order a plant for my own garden as soon as it becomes available, as I myself judged it worthy of a Gold Medal. Both of these climbers are healthy and have moderate scent, and they clearly have a great future.
1971. Roses. Orbis Books. (colour photo)
P77. No. 118. The variety Etude may have taken a long time to produce; in any case, the result is very beautiful. The semi-double flowers open in the form of a cup surrounded by the yellow tufts of the stamens. The buds are bright green but the open flower is a delicate pink, suffused here and there with touches of red. The small abundant leaves are dark and shiny.
1971. Roses. Orbis Books. (colour photo)
p76 No. 115. Pink Perpetue is the name of a fine variety of climbing rose. The flowers, which are double and very numerous, are perfectly formed and their middle is still pointed when the outer petals have moved away from it. The buds are red, but become much lighter and more delicate when the flower is completely open. The leaves, which are not very large, are shiny and dark green, and the stalks tend to be reddish. Flowers and leaves are so abundant and long lasting that it is a very useful plant to have in a garden.
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My 'Etude' resembles what is described in the first reference. In my rainy and damp climate, the leaves do grow fairly large.
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'Etude' has grown back quickly from winter cold. It appears to be completely crown hardy in zone 5. Furthermore, it makes a handsome plant, having sturdy, upright canes and leaves of attractive color at every stage of growth. To me, it seems to possess every virtue except quick rebloom. BS only appears, so far, at the very end of the season on the lowest leaves.
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I planted Etude last summer (2013) not knowing whether it would be able to handle a zone 5 Vermont winter or not. Well, this was a doozy of a winter, but Etude came through with flying colors. I have never seen it blossom yet, but it had hardly any die-back, so before long I should get the chance.
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I had the same experience with Etude. Also planted last summer, grew vigorously with little cane die back. I am feeling very good about this rose.
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Vintage Gardens is closing June 30th and will no longer be taking orders after that time.
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I just received a plant of Etude from VG. I am hoping I will be able to grow it, with winter protection, I note it is being grown in Moscow.
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