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'Terra Cotta' rose Reviews & Comments
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How this rose available in united states?? There are no retailer carry this rose in the states
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Currently, there are no US sources, but there have been in the past. It's also quite possible florist stock was propagated and shared from one garden to another. There has been much of that here in California over the past thirty years. There have been many rose society auctions which have distributed an amazing selection of old, rare and unusual roses across the state.
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Excellent info Kim. I think I need to join local rose society, I collected over 100 top rated roses already but not even enough. Thanks
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You're welcome. The major upcoming auction is the CCRS Auction in November The information about it is here at this link.
http://www.ccrsauction.com/index.php
There are silent and live auctions on several hundred roses, some of which are not commercially available in the US currently. I think you will really enjoy the archival information available on the site about the past three years' auctions. The Ventura County Rose Society held amazing auctions for several years, all of which were Jim Delahanty's projects. I doubt with his passing, those will continue. The VCRS auctions also had some pretty wild catalogs, which became reference works, particularly for the "found" roses they contain.
The Sacramento Historic Cemetery has their Garden Celebration usually in April Their site is here.
http://www.cemeteryrose.org/
Jeri Jennings has created some wonderful catalogs for their sales which have also become reference works for the old, rare and found roses they contain. These special events can significantly open your eyes to some pretty wonderful roses you may not have been exposed to any other way. You'll enjoy them.
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Thank you very much, I'm heading to Ventura county end of next month. Hope to be there again in November for this rose auction
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You're welcome! The VCRS has a propagation demonstration for their November 21 meeting. Burling Leong will demonstrate her chip budding method. Clay Jennings will demo his rooting method and I will demo the "Burrito Method" of wrapping cuttings. The date, time and address are on their web site here.
http://www.venturarose.org/calendar.htm
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I saw on the society calendar. I'm very familiar with burrito method, is this rooting on the main plant without cutting the branches? We been using this method on any kind of tropical plants in south east Asia region. Is this success in roses? Wonderful, I definitely want to see this
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What you describe is layering or air layering. This requires removal of the cutting to wrap. I've detailed the process I was introduced to on my blog.
http://pushingtheroseenvelope.blogspot.com/2011/05/wrapping-cuttings.html
Beginning at the above link and reading the successive posts forward will provide you with all the information (including detailed photographs) gleaned to date about the subject. It relies upon some of the same responses as layering, but differs in key points.
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Yes it's new for me and very interesting method of rooting
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Once you get the method tweaked to your conditions and climate, it can be a very easy, highly successful method. It's enabled me to root roses in my conditions when nothing else has worked well.
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Very simple and easy, i wrapped few cuttings. Only question on this method is that how to dip in hormone? is it just like normally dipping base of cuttings? Or Entire cutting? Because I saw roots emerge from most of the knots, MAGIC! I used mist box method previously and success is only 10-20%.
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Just dip the bottom ends of the cuttings in the hormone of your choice. Some are going to root beautifully without any hormone. Some are going to fight you every step of the way. The hormone is not absolutely required, but it usually couldn't hurt!
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I would think so, I appreciate for sharing new and easy rooting method.
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You're welcome! I hope it proves useful for you.
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Kim
You're a magician of propagation. What a great method that prove me reality. This is awesome! I used your method with 6 cuttings, including Vendera florist rose from my mom flower bouquet. Only a week I'm so curious what is going on? I open the burrito and found small young roots are forming 4 out of 6 cuttings, seemingly all are in great shape. Thanks again Kim
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Congratulations! Actually, you must be the "magician". This method doesn't work in my climate this time of year with actively growing cuttings. I only succeed with it here in late winter to early summer with dormant material. Good job! If they are actually rooting, it might be time to plant them. The longer they remain in the wraps without light, the more stored resources they use up. They need light to photosynthesize food for themselves. Now comes the hard part. Planting them where they will receive light without cooking or drying up. You might want to take a look on my blog, paying attention to how deeply I plant them to start so they get some light, but remain cooler, damper and darker to encourage root development until they fill the bottoms of the pots. Good luck!
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Do you means grow them in greenhouse condition?
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If you have a green house where you can harden them off and let them mature where they won't fry, that would be great. I don't, so I experimented until I discovered planting them deeply so only the top inch or so of the cutting remained out of the soil where the sun could hit it worked for me here. That has permitted them to begin feeding themselves while the roots continue developing without them drying out and frying when the sun and air are too hot and dry. You'll have to experiment where you are to see what works best for you this time of the year.
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#22 of 31 posted
8 SEP 13 by
 Jay-Jay
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I discovered that some hours early morning sun do the trick, and in the beginning I cover the potted cuttings with a sandwich bag out of thin polypropyleen, held in place by an elastic band. (to keep the cuttings moist)
After a week or so, I make a cut in the plastic bag with a knife and open that slit little by little (to prevent moulding) during the next days, until it can be taken off.
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I would fear covering anything with any kind of plastic here in much of California this time of year. It's too hot and too sunny. It would be like microwaving them in a very short period of time. Where it's cooler in comparison, as it is in your garden in The Netherlands, Jay Jay, absolutely, that should work just fine.
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#14 of 31 posted
1 SEP 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Maybe is using this natural home-made rooting hormone an idea?
http://deepgreenpermaculture.com/diy-instructions/home-made-plant-rooting-hormone-willow-water/
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Very interesting article, I definitely want to try that
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#16 of 31 posted
1 SEP 13 by
Jay-Jay
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It did work for me at rooting the cuttings of the sport of Mozart, that I became of Maurice Reybaud.
See the comments at this photo: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.173730&threadID=58112&tab=32
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Wonderful propagation. Thanks for sharing!
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#27 of 31 posted
23 NOV 20 by
jmile
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I got my original Terra Cotta from Carlton Nursery many years ago. I don't know where HMF gets their info but mine is over 6 feet tall.
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Help Me Find obtains information from official ARS publications as well as from the rose breeder and introducers. Other information comes from those who grow the roses, such as your comment.
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#29 of 31 posted
23 NOV 20 by
jedmar
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6-8 feet is very unusual for this type of HT. Sounds almost like a climbing sport. Would be good to get the opinion of Mathias Meilland.
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#30 of 31 posted
25 NOV 20 by
jmile
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Roses tend to get really large around here. My roses are planted in old horse manure combined with the alfalfa that I fed the horses. The soil is rich topsoil from the Sacramento Valley. I have a Touch of Class that has entwined in a pine tree that is way over my head. Healthy soil makes healthy plants. (and lots of weeds)
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#31 of 31 posted
26 NOV 20 by
HMF Admin
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And this is what makes HMF so useful - collecting and organizing the experience of specific varieties in specific regions/conditions. Thank you for your participation.
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#24 of 31 posted
2 NOV 17 by
jmile
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If you are still looking for Terra Cotta----I have sent some cuttings to K and M Roses to be grafted onto Fortuniana root stock. According to Jim Mills, these cuttings are doing great. They have been hardened and are being transfered into 1 gallon pots. If you would just like cuttings to start own root, I will send you cuttings. My Terra Cotta is a beast. It is 8 feet tall and it blooms all the time. The blooms are huge. Most of them are huge sprays.
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#26 of 31 posted
23 AUG 19 by
jmile
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Are you still looking for Terracotta? I have several ---- It is a very healthy monster of a rose. I love the color in my garden. It is next to Out of Africa. They make quite a duo.
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A favorite of mine. The only way to describe the color of this rose is luminescent. It has a sheen similar to satin cloth that I've not seen in any other rose, and which cannot be captured on camera (I've tried). It's hard to believe the claim that this is a sport of Leonidas. It is nothing like that variety -- this one doesn't have the major mildew problems and the color is stable -- it does not turn bright orange in the sun.
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The Meilland bred russett hybrid tea "Terracotta" or "My Lovely" is no longer carried by Hortico which is quite a shame as that leaves no vendors for this lovely hybrid tea here in North America.
So you can contact me for information on how to get one.
John Moody
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What is the difference between MEIcobuis and SIMchoca? I just saw that Hortico was offering the Terracotta, but I am not sure which one, the MEIcobuis or SIMchoca?Is one preferable to another? From what I have learned from this site, it appears that the MEIcobuis is the one I prefer, but I am not sure either way. I am trying to duplicate what the florist used to sell to me. BTW: I have never grown anything in the ground before, but my husband is great at all of this.Thanks,Missy
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#1 of 3 posted
7 JAN 07 by
Cass
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This is my best guess: that Meilland, which introduced both roses, has decided that the 2001 introduction, SIMchoca, is a better garden plant and is selling it instead of MEIcobuis, the sport of the florists' rose 'Leonidas.' Which variety Hortico is selling is a question that only Hortico answer.
I suspect that what the florist sold you is MEIcobuis/Terracotta. If it is like its parent 'Leonidas,' it can be a fussy, very difficult to grow garden plant.
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#2 of 3 posted
24 JAN 07 by
missy396
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Thanks so much for the response. I am still waiting for my Hortico purchase of nine plants. They are due to arrive in early March. I went to Wayside as well, and purchased five more. What do I need to due to get my soil ready? I live in Los Angeles, Ca. and am planting them in soil where the only roses we have ever planted were Iceburgs. They thrive, and although I did not choose them, I'll admit, they do well. Are the terracottas going to need more nourishment than those? Also, what about planting in a big pot? My husband thinks we should keep them all in the ground, but I might run out of space....
Thanks!!!
Michelle
PS Where does everyone else who has this rose purchase them from? I thought they were unavailable to the US unitl just recently...
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The Terracotta rose I grow is the MEIcobuis cultivar. My bush is not finicky or hard to grow at all. It is winter hardy in my zone 5 with no added protection other than a few leaves that fall from my oak and maple trees in the yard that cluster around the base of the plant. It is very vigorous growing and blooms alot. Most of the blooms are clusters but it does put out singles with long stems that make excellent cut roses as well. I spray monthly except for last year when I got sick and didn't spray from July til the end of growing season. It still stayed clean without spraying for four months. I got my Terracotta from a now defunct Keith's Garden Shack in the last year they did business in 2005. So this will be it's 5th year in my garden and it still looks really good this spring after whizzing through a rather dry Midwest winter. I would guess that if Hortico is offering a Terracotta, it would probably be this one, the MEIcobuis.
I highly recommend this to anyone who loves a novel color and nice fragrance as well.
Many visitors to my garden are very impressed with this rose.
John
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