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'Columbia, Cl.' rose Reviews & Comments
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I've been told by a supplier it's winter hardiness is very poor, does anyone growing this rose thing it would need protection in zone 8? I've never had to provide any sort of protection in our mostly snowless winters
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25 JAN 20 by
Hamanasu
Looking at minimum temperatures for US zones, I think the UK, where I grow this rose, would count as zone 9. I never had any problem with it in zone 9. If your minimum winter temperatures tend to be towards the upper end of zone 8 (ie closer to 20F than 10F) I suspect you'd be OK, particularly if you plant it in the shelter of a warm wall. I highly recommend this rose -- both scent and bloom form are superb.
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Strong and complex scent, like its progenitor Ophelia. In that category of roses with a scent all their own, where analogies fail.
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22 MAR 09 by
Stefan
Could this be 'Columbia Clb.' (Lens, 1928)? Whilst looking at the pictures and comparing the descriptions I thought both plants could be identical, even so I wondered that noone saw this before because it seems to be to simple.
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22 MAR 09 by
Cass
It is possible but far from certain. Beales is selling a found rose with an unknown provenence "sent to use by Vivian Russell." The bloom form is very much like the large flowered climber Blossomtime and Coral Dawn.
The rose Columbia produced 20 known sports, of which four were pink climbing sports. I don't know how one would distinguish one from the other.
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23 MAR 09 by
Stefan
Thanks for your reply, Cass - I know of the existence of other climbing sports of 'Columbia'. What I wondered about is the exact match in the description of both roses. I got a 'Columbian Climber' from Peter Beales and will try to get one or more of the 'Columbia' climbing sports to plant them in comparison.
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Peter Beales Roses Ltd confirmed these two roses are one and same rose.
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I had this one for several years. It was an own-root specimen rooted from one in Kim Rupert's garden. It was mostly smooth and essentially a once bloomer for me in the desert. I let it go when it eventually developed mildew symptoms. I can't remember if I trashed it or gave it away.
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#5 of 5 posted
1 APR 09 by
Stefan
Thanks for that information, Jocelen - so my thoughts seem to be right. When did you talk to P.B.R.?
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