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Discussion id : 30-969
most recent 9 JAN SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 OCT 08 by kai-eric
i'm confused about the indication of vincent berger - born in 1883 on further czechoslovakian ground - to have bred dr. lande with only 18 years...?
b.dickerson at least mentions j.-b. chauvry from bordeaux having been involved in breeding of the plant, in collaboration with a certain berger. are there documents showing that austrian breeder v. berger is the same person?
dedication to the mayor of bordeaux at the time makes sense for french not austrian breeding.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 16 OCT 08 by jedmar
Dickerson is possibly quoting Jäger, who lists Chauvry in brackets, which (usually) means for him that Chauvry commercialized the rose. The Berger nursery in Czechoslovakia passed 1926 from Adolph to Vincenz Berger, so the breeder could have been the father. The only other rose bred by a Berger in France is from 1852, so that does not fit either. We need more contemporary accounts on this.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 JAN by odinthor
Ketten (catalog 1902, p. 135) credits Berger, as does/do Soupert & Notting (1905, p. 68). Even better, Rosen-Zeitung of 1901, (p. 15), concerning which I will try to attach an image.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 9 JAN by jedmar
The breeder question was actually resolved a long time ago with the quote from Journal des Roses.. We have added the two additional references, thank you!
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Discussion id : 117-831
most recent 30 JUL 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 JUL 19 by HubertG
A 1 metre climbing rose?? Would this be correct? Or perhaps just a typo?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 30 JUL 19 by jedmar
That's what Rosenlexikon says. Jäger must have it from somewhere.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 30 JUL 19 by HubertG
That's very odd. Maybe it simply flops helplessly unless it's supported to a short pole.
To me the appearance is very reminiscent of 'Mrs. Reynolds Hole', by the way.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 30 JUL 19 by jedmar
The photo from Sangerhausen shows that they trained it as a pillar rose. The description of Jäger is from the "Journal des Roses" which says "semi-double". Clearly, the Sangerhausen rose is mislabeled.
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