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'Smithii' rose Reviews & Comments
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It does seem that a yellowish Tea was sometimes mistaken for Smith's Yellow Noisette.
Gardeners' Chronicle (May 30, 1874) p. 704
The Original Tea Rose.—In reply to "H.," p. 600, on the original yellow Tea Rose, and to W. F. Radclyffe, p. 673, I have got a Rose like the one described, but I believed it to be Smith's Yellow; it is remarkable for a long pointed bud.— Granville Ll. Baker, Harwiche Court, Gloucester
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The Gardener's Magazine and Register of Rural and Domestic Improvement, Volume 7; p 479 (1831)
The Florist's Guide and Cultivator's Directory, &c. By Robert Sweet, F.L.S. &c. XLVIII. for June, contains:
"Mr. Smith, of Coombe Wood, will have several very distinct and curious hybrid roses in flower this season; among the rest he has a seedling, from Rosa odorata var. flavescens, with leaves like those of the yellow Austrian; this must certainly be fine, and will doubtless be yellow in colour."
[This item is noteworthy because the author states that Smith was working with 'flavescens' (Knight's) rather than 'ochroleuca' (Parks').]
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Added. I have presumed that it was a ref from The Gardener's Magazine - and not The Florists's Guide.
I have also put a Note on the main page about this 1831 ref.
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#2 of 2 posted
5 OCT 15 by
CybeRose
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Patricia,
That's right. I would like to quote directly from The Florist's Guide, but I haven't found it on-line ... yet.
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The Gardener's Magazine And Register of Rural & Domestic Improvement
Magazine (1832) Page(s) 599.
The statement "flowers are about the size of those of the double-yellow China rose" suggests that Knight's yellow China was the parent, rather than Parks'. The latter had larger flowers (around 4 inches) which would be out of place in a corymb of 10 to 22 flowers.
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But the seed parent 'Blush Noisette' would play a part in small flowers?
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5 OCT 15 by
CybeRose
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It seems to me that the comparison was between child and father. It would be odd if the author should compare the flower-size of Smith's Yellow to the *other* (non-father) yellow China without notifying the readers.
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The Garden p. 205 (Sept 12, 1896)
Rose Homere.—"Dorset's" just and well-deserved estimate of the many merits of this Rose (p. 155) was specially welcome to me. He is quite right about its forming a fine bush or mass anywhere. But as to Homere covering low walls, it will speedily do that and ask for more, and I have not yet met with any wall too lofty for Homere to climb and clothe with beauty to its highest summit. As to its perfect autumn buds, they are admirable for button-boles or any other purpose. It is also refreshing to find such testimony as "Dorset's" as to Homere being seldom out of bloom under glass, and that no kind gives more satisfaction for cutting. Most of us are familiar with its profuse blooming in the autumn in the open, but few seem to have had sense to give Homere a glasshouse to itself, like the Marechal, Perle des Jardins, Perle de Lyon, Mme. Hoste, Marie Van Houtte, Niphetos, &c. Of very few of these, unless the last and Smith's yellow China, now almost out of cultivation, can it be truly said that they are seldom out of bloom.—D. T. F.
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