'Star of Queensland' rose reviews and comments

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'Star of Queensland' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 129-197 most recent 8 SEP 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 28 SEP 21 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

The late Frank Hogan of Mackay (in the tropics) didn't want Star of Queensland to be commercialised. Respecting his wishes, HRIA members have taken cuttings from his plant, to grow it in at least one public garden in Queensland, and to go to the display garden of Ross Rosses in South Australia (not for sale). I hope it can be spread to other public gardens as a backup. Photos will be interesting.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 4 posted 4 SEP 22 by Duchesse

Reply #2 of 4 posted 4 SEP 22 by HMF supporting member

HubertG

I have to agree. I don't know if there is any backstory but if someone preserved a rare and old rose all these years I can't understand why they wouldn't want it to be enjoyed by as many other rose lovers as possible.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 4 posted 4 SEP 22 by Duchesse

Yes, I hope Margaret might be able to tell us a bit more? If this gentleman had this rose and treasured/preserved it, I for one would like to continue that legacy as a member of the Heritage Rose Society in Australia, and a Queenslander. Maybe the stipulations could be relaxed a little?	REPLY

Reply #4 of 4 posted 8 SEP 22 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

I wasn't involved in the discussion, and haven't seen a plant or photo, so I don't know if the ID is correct.
While I agree with you in theory, in practical terms it doesn't make much difference. The public don't buy rarities not mentioned by gardening magazines or TV shows, so it's not commercially viable for nurseries to propagate them.
I think it was the Darling Downs region of HRIA who had cuttings to propagate. You could try contacting them re getting a plant.

Discussion id : 112-294 most recent 21 JUL 18 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 21 JUL 18 by HMF supporting member

Ozoldroser

Truth (Brisbane, Qld. : 1900 - 1954), Sunday 7 June 1908, page 3
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STAR OF QUEENSLAND.
The Star of Queensland is a rose the direct result of hybridising Etoile de France with the Earl of Duffrin, the former being the mother parent,
and the raising of this new variety of rose has been most successfully ac-compllshed by Mr. John Williams, of the Broadwater Nurseries, at Mt.Gra-vatt. The color is a rich deep, velvety crimson shaded with maroon, and it is said to have a very beautiful sheen, sweet smelling, and highly perfumed, and being a dark, free-flowerlng rose, will supply a long-felt want to Aus-tralia. Mr Williams, whose experience dates back to 1872 when he was em-ployed by those world-wide known seedsmen Sutton and Co. of Reading (Eng.), and who came to Sydney in 1879, is at present booking orders for two thousand plants, and if that num-ber is speedily taken up will be able to put It out next year. Already one Australian firm has placed an order for 500 with Mr. Williams, and he con -fidently expects to see the 2000 ex-ceeded. Lovers of rose culture should either write or call on Mr. Williams, who will be pleased to give further particulars, prices, etc.

Reply #1 of 1 posted 21 JUL 18 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Thank you Pat. Reference added. He wasn't going to let this one go the way of 'Penelope' was he?	REPLY

Discussion id : 12-090 most recent 4 MAY 06 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 4 MAY 06 by Unregistered Guest

Patricia , I wish I had all of your rose books ! Thank You for te additional information. I will keep it in my records. regards, Andrew	REPLY

Discussion id : 11-944 most recent 4 MAY 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 22 APR 06 by Jennie

Reply #1 of 5 posted 26 APR 06 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #2 of 5 posted 27 APR 06 by Jennie

Reply #3 of 5 posted 28 APR 06 by Unregistered Guest

’Star of Queensland’ compiled by Patricia Routley April 18, 2006. Page 1

(Sorry - I am unable to fix some of the unwanted emboldening - Patricia )

Star of Queensland

1909 John Williams, Qld. HT.

’Etoile de France’ x ‘Earl of Dufferin’

1912. E. & W. Hackett Nursery Adelaide (photocopy from BW Jan 24, 06)

p77-2-41 Star of Queensland, large, full, deep rich velvety maroon, reverse of petals cardinal to cerise, free blooming.

1912 Arthur Yates & Co., Ltd., Sydney. – catalogue (and 1913-97)

p94 Star of Queensland (H.T.) – Deep velvety maroon, reverse of petals cardinal to cerise. Free bloomer.

1913. Law Somner & Co Nursery, Richmond, Victoria, (photocopy from BW Jan 24, 06)

p109-3-3 Star of Queensland – A cross between Etoile de France and Earl of Dufferin, with the form of the latter and free blooming qualities of the former. Colour, rich velvety crimson, shaded with maroon; a vigorous grower, and free from mildew. 1/6.

1914. Anderson & Co. Nursery, Sydney, NSW (photocopy from BW Jan 24, 06)

p82-3-41 Star of Queensland (H.T.) Rich deep velvety crimson, shaded maroon, reverse petals cerise.

1914. Henry Sewell Nursery, Payneham, South Australia. – catalogue (photocopy from BW Jan 24, 06)

p97-7 Star of Queensland – Rich velvety crimson, shaded maroon. HT.T.t. HT

1914 Arthur Yates & Co., Ltd., Sydney. – catalogue

p30 Star of Queensland H.T. vig. Rich deep crimson, shaded maroon, reverse cardinal; good.

1915 Arthur Yates & Co., Ltd., Sydney. – catalogue

p99 Star of Queensland (H.T.) – Deep velvety maroon, reverse of petals cardinal to cerise. Free bloomer. Excellent

1916 John Lockely Rose Growing Made Easy (Billy’s email April 22, 2006)

In 1916 it's listed under HYBRID TEAS & TEAS: The Red Shades:
"STAR OF QUEENSLAND: - (H.T.) - Rich velvety-crimson."

1916 Arthur Yates & Co., Ltd., Sydney. – catalogue

p10 Star of Queensland (H.T.) Velvety maroon

p81 Star of Queensland (H.T.) Velvety maroon

p38 Star of Queensland H.T. vig. Rich deep crimson, shaded maroon, reverse cardinal; good.

1916-17 Wilson & Johns Nursery, Perth (Western Australia) (photocopy from BW Jan 24, 06)

p46 Star of Queensland. T. A cross between Etoile de France and Earl of Dufferin, with the form of the latter and free-blooming qualities of the former. Colour rich velvety crimson, shaded with maroon; a vigorous grower, and free from mildew. 1/6.

1917 S. Brundrett, Essendon Rose Nursery, Moonee Ponds, Victoria – catalogue

Reply #4 of 5 posted 30 APR 06 by Unregistered Guest

Despite me putting the information on 'Star of Queensland' on Chez Vibert on April 25, and copying this message to <lyn@ helpmefind.com> (and which was subsequently returned to me); Helpmefind is still listing this rose as white.

I thought I could fix this by putting my file in the Helpmefind question and answer section for 'Star of Queensland', but unfortunately you have used only some of the first page of my data and seem to have discarded the rest which shows WHEN the rose started to become a semi-double (1922 Hazelwood) and WHEN the rose was first described as white.

Having acquired these facts, I don't think they should be discarded in the overall picture of the rose.

Patricia

Reply #5 of 5 posted 4 MAY 06 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Patricia........ Please forgive my slow response to your correction on the color of 'Star Of Queensland'. I have entered the officical "dark red", but included additional discriptive color references. With Regards, Lyn, helpmefind.com	REPLY