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'Reynolds Hole' rose Reviews & Comments
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most recent 21 DEC 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 DEC 16 by billy teabag
Looking for more references to the various roses named for Samuel Reynolds Hole, I was pleased to find something by the man himself that refers to both the Trouillard-bred 'Reynolds Hole' introduced by Standish in the early 1860s and the 1872 'Reynolds Hole' by Paul.
It's from The Gardener: A Magazine of Horticulture and Floriculture, (Volume 6 Sept 1872 p397) - have added it to refs of both rose entries.
"Need I say how happy I should be if a similar popularity should be extended to the next and last new English Rose upon my list—I mean, to "Reynolds Hole," so named by the raiser in recognition of our long and hearty friendship ? Many years ago another of the floral brotherhood, whom I very highly esteem, was pleased to pay me a similar compliment; but the "Reynolds Hole" sent out by John Standish did not realise his expectations, and, with some hundreds of other Roses, has all but gone out of cultivation; so that I rejoice to be again replaced and represented in the world of Roses by a new and very promising variety. "Reynolds Hole," a seedling from the Duke of Edinburgh, also raised at Cheshunt, much resembles Louis Van Houtte. It is a Rose of great substance (like its synonym), and of a very rich deep crimson complexion, such as the original might be supposed to assume when carrying a box of Roses up the Crystal Palace steps, when bowling to his boy beneath a burning sun, when hearing some remark made in disparagement of floral propensities or of floral men; or when told, as he hopes to be told, that "Reynolds Hole" has found a home and a welcome with all those who love the Rose. S. R. H. "

Sadly, this one didn't realise expectations either as 20 years on, Ellwanger wrote "shy in the autumn and subject to mildew. A rose of great beauty but not at all adapted to general cultivation.", and in 1900 Foster Melliar gave this appraisal, "of long strong growth when in health, with smooth characteristic wood, but of bad constitution, for the plants are sadly apt to become weak and die and are best as maidens. It is liable to mildew and orange fungus, to injury from rain, and to "burning": a good average of the blooms come well shaped, but the weather must be hot and dry or neither colour nor form will be perfect. The flower is fully filled in the centre, lasts extremely well and hardly ever shows an eye ; but it opens slowly and must not be cut for exhibition before it is fairly expanded, for nothing in the shape of long journeys or hot weather, pencils or budding knives, force or violence will make it open except on plant. It will not put up with light soils or the manetti stock, but sometimes does better as a standard, is late and not very free-flowering, and, being so dainty, cannot be expected to become a good autumnal. But a good bloom of it is truly superb, in petal, shape, size, and especially in colour, worthy of the name it bears of the President of the National Rose Society, who has done so much to render Rose growing popular. "
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 20 DEC 16 by Patricia Routley
I have added one or two refs Billy.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 20 DEC 16 by billy teabag
Thanks very much Patricia - and thanks for adding the 'S. Reynolds Hole' syn.
From the information in refs, are you satisfied that Paul's 'Reynolds Hole' was a seedling of 'Duke of Edinburgh'?
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 21 DEC 16 by Patricia Routley
Yes. And it seems logical that Mr. Paul would plant the hips from his new rose of just four years earlier
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 21 DEC 16 by billy teabag
There is a list of roses the Dean was growing in 1903 - from the book 'The Letters of Samuel Reynolds Hole'.
It includes both 'Reynolds Hole' (most likely the Paul-bred one), and 'Mrs Reynolds Hole'.
I've uploaded scans of the pages to the entry for that book.
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