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Discussion id : 109-374
most recent 18 MAR 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 MAR 18 by HubertG
From the Francher Creek nursery catalogue, ("Descriptive catalogue of fruit and shade trees, vines, ornamental plants and roses for sale at the Francher Creek Nursery") 1896, page 67:

"Mme. Cusin. Crimson, with light center, slightly tinted with violet yellow ; medium size, good form, and quite distinct"



I have no idea what colour violet yellow would be.


Also this from the Nanz & Neuner Catalogue 1901, page 28:

"MME CUSIN. Purple rose, white center, tinted yellow, large, well formed, extra free bloomer."
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Discussion id : 109-358
most recent 18 MAR 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 MAR 18 by HubertG
Possibly a contender for the Nantawarra Pink?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 17 MAR 18 by Margaret Furness
Can't say it would have occurred to me to call my "Nantawarra Pink" violet-shaded. Its colour is very variable, but I haven't seen any sporting as such. Mme Cusin seems to have been unstable with unstable sports.
Interesting that a couple of references say Mme Cusin is vigorous, whereas Dr H Thomas says it isn't a strong grower. Not in his garden, perhaps.
The 1903 reference says "the thorns are somewhat poisonous." I wonder what that meant?
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 17 MAR 18 by HubertG
I imagine "poisonous" in this context could refer to the thorns being a huge drawback to its salabilty in the cut flower trade. Only guessing though.
I haven't grown Nantawarra pink. I had just posted a description of Mme Badin which said it was reminiscent of Mme Cusin, so just throwing that thought out there. as they both have that crimson pink shading.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 18 MAR 18 by Patricia Routley
You are re-inventing the wheel. Have you had a close look at the page for 'Nantawarra Pink Tea"?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 18 MAR 18 by HubertG
You are saying Nantawarra pink isn't thorny? I wouldn't know, I was only going off the colour similarities.

It would be better to have separate entries on HMF for renamed old roses and historical named varieties if they haven't been proven to be the same yet, in my humble opinion. A link could be provided to the other roses in any particular entry if the roses are suspected to be the same.
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