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most recent 30 MAY 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 MAY 13 by goncmg
The color and general "appearance" are close to Granada but not as deep or as unique across the board. Although this one can be a "lovely" rose, with some nice forms and it does repeat well, it just isn't as good as Granada for the most part----it has no fragrance, the colors are not as rich, the plant is weaker.............Gingersnap, despite its amazing and still unequalled intense color, is for those of us in humid climates a disaster. And sadly, my experience with Givenchy is that it inherited Gingersnap's disease................lost this one 3 times in the winter in 6a and not one winter was unusually cold. The Columbus Park of Roses has a huge bed of this----never lost theirs---BUT: come July this bed is, and has been for almost 30 years, defoliated by blackspot.................no where NEAR as unique or as GOOD as its parents...........why anyone would grow this or would have grown this over Granada is beyond me...............
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 29 MAY 13 by Kim Rupert
When the ads first broke for the Armstrong "Designer Roses", I had to try them because of the illustrations. Lagerfeld, Lanvin, Givenchy and La Tour d'Argent all finally came home from the Armstrong Garden Centers. Givenchy was actually healthier in my climate than Granada (much less rust and mildew) and the flowers lasted much longer (more petals of better substance). The wood was harder with much less sun scald. The flowers were beautiful and lasted quite well when cut. All of them eventually went to other homes. Only Aunt Gerry, a sport of Lanvin remains in the family.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 30 MAY 13 by goncmg
Oh yes, Granada and that addiction to mildew (oddly, Kim, here in 6a we have had a cool, humid spring. NO MILDEW. NOT A SPOT. Not even on Granada. And the past 2 years I had cases where it went beyond nuisance and into disfiguring on a few of them)...........I tried all the "designers," too! I just now got a band of Lagerfeld again so it is returning after a 20 year hiatus, but yes, somehow they were "good" but didn't speak to me? Givenchy must not be a humid climate rose---thanks Daddy Gingersnap! But yes, even here I have seen some blooms that are quite gorgeous.........
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 30 MAY 13 by Kim Rupert
My mother's nick name was "Ginger" and she loved the color of Gingersnap, well, at least what it was for the first fifteen minutes it was open. So, I had to put one in her garden. What a disastrous plant that awful thing was! EVERY fungal issue known to man! Gorgeous color for about fifteen minutes, then dishwater. What a disappointment that thing was here in California!
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 30 MAY 13 by goncmg
Try Ohio, Kim! LOL LOL.........it was a great plant if you wanted a skeletal stick with a disfigured "what should be orange" bloom............the first few blossoms were great but it was one of those here that once it got blackspot (and it was always first) it just never STOPPED getting blackspot...........you know what I mean as some DO come back and the some strains are more "recoverable"...........oh no, train wreck!
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