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Discussion id : 150-855
most recent 17 SEP 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 SEP 23 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
Question answered. I just read the info on HMF about the dates the plates were published. Andrews illustration was published ca. 1808.
Stephen
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 SEP 23 by jedmar
Stephen, check the listing on Andrew's Roses and you will find fascicle numbers and dates listed as far as we know. Roses was issued in separate plates and only bound much later.
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Discussion id : 150-854
most recent 17 SEP 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 SEP 23 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
A question. Andrews' book is listed as the earliest source, giving the introduction date of 1808 for R. indica rubra (R. indica Cruenta-Redoute). Andrews' second volume was published in 1828. Was that merely a publication date for text written years earlier?

My confusion arises out of the comment that Andrews had seen the rose "the year before" in the Whitley nursery/garden. The year before . . . 1828?

I'm attempting to write an article about the red Chinas.

Stephen
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Discussion id : 105-920
most recent 8 OCT 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 OCT 17 by CybeRose
The Rose Annual (Royal National Rose Society) 38-53 (1975)
Tea-Scented Roses A Survey
L. ARTHUR WYATT

In order to obtain red Teas, hybridists had to look to the closely related Chinas. An old cultivar, not at all well known in England named 'Sanguine' (1835) was apparently the main source for most of the coppery tinted and bright reds.
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