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'Hocus Pocus' rose Reviews & Comments
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27 DEC 14 by
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Available from - For Love of Roses
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6 DEC 12 by
 jmile
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I purchased Hocus Pocus 4 years ago from Palatine Roses. Since then I have created several own root plants that have remained remarkably stable with the characteristic stripes. The key to this seems to be in the selection of the branches used to create the new plants. I tag the branches that produce stripped flowers all blooming season and use these branches. This plant is remarkably easy to own root. So far I have had 100 percent success.
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That is fantastic. This rose is no longer offered in commerce. I got a very small plant many years ago when Carlton roses was still open. But I lost it. There has been so much discussion over the years on many of the forums over this rose, Abracadabra and Memphis music. The later 2 having been discussed to actually be the same rose. I grow that later 2 in my garden. I have quite an affection for striped roses.
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6 DEC 12 by
jmile
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I grow Hocus Pocus, Abracadabra, Simsalabin, and Memphis Music in my garden. The first 3 are definitely related. Memphis Music has a different look to it. The plants grow differently and the leaves and flowers are different. My original Hocus Pocus is quite the sport producer. At one time it had a bloom like all of the first three roses plus Frisco and Black Magic. I have to put notes on the branches to keep track of what is what. When my plants are grown up enough, I will try to get more of these own roots out to others. The main problem is that the young plant has to bloom before I am positive it is what it is and it is hardy enough to survive.
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I so wanted Simsalabin and could never find it. I have such a passion for odd colors and stripes.
I think I understand the tagging to remember.
Amy
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29 JAN 06 by
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I have a Hocus Pocus growing in Brisbane, Australia (avr summer temp 32 degrees c), the only problem is the flowers don't have the cream coloured strips, they are all the dark red colour. Is this due to it being too hot here? or another reason?
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From what I've experienced with my Hocus Pocus, the striping is a mutation or "sport" from the solid color original. If this is, indeed, the case, your plant may have mutated, or reverted, back to the original form of the rose. No one knows exactly why the genes suddenly shuffle and express themselves differently. It has been theorized that high heat may play a part due to the accelerated cellular division caused by the higher temperatures. Many other factors could also play a part, such as the initial genetic instability of the variety, cultural practices, radiation, etc. It will be interesting to see if your Hocus Pocus begins to show the striping during cooler temperatures, or even if a second plant situated very close to the original also loses its stripes. An article of mine appeared in the December, 2005 Help Me Find Ezine concerning striped and other sports of roses. You may find it, and others previously printed in the Ezine, interesting and helpful. Here is the link to my article, if you'd enjoy reading it. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/ezine.php?publicationID=693&js=0 Enjoy! |
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What Kim replied to is correct, I just wanted to let you know that if the entire bush has reverted back, what you have now is called "Black Beauty". This is also a sport of the floribunda "Frisco", which is yellow. There is always a chance you can get some to sport again, and if you do watch the stripes; Abracadabra is the sport of Hocus-Pocus. I know, lots of sports, but Abracadabra is much more stable than HP.
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If your bush is only throwing blooms that are dark red, your bush has reverted back to "Black Beauty" (HT). Black Beauty is a sport of "Frisco", which is a yellow Floribunda. So now you see how Hocus-Pocus got its coloring. If by chance your HP stats throwing out striped blooms again, check to make sure it isn't sporting to "Abracadabra" (HT), which is a much more stable sport of HP.
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23 JUL 07 by
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The absence of striping may be due to your plant reverting to it's parent 'Black Beauty'.
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1 MAY 07 by
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Can I purchase a rose bush or a stentling? It is sooo beautiful!! ;)
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This is a rose that is hard to come by in the U.S. Moore's sells this but we warned that Hocus-Pocus has a tendancy to revert back to its parent, "Black Beauty". You could buy this and never see a striped bloom. Check out "Abracadabra" to see if you can find that. You could at least get on the waiting list with Lorene at Moore's Roses. "Abracadabra" by the way is a stable sport of "Hocus-Pocus".
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