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'KORgane' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 66-813
most recent 28 JAN 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 6 SEP 12 by goncmg
Once established this one is quite a heavy bloomer and the very unique bloom color looks nice with the lighter green, quite glossy leaves. Like Aztec, Lemon Spice, Helen Traubel, Southern Belle, El Cid and many others from the mid-century, this one tends to be a floppy, rangey grower sort of sprawling out like a spider and often having weak necks to boot (rather unusual for this breeder). But for informal, bright impact it is quite lovely and not surprising since it is from Kordes, quite hardy......
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 JAN 19 by drossb1986
You seem to have a lot of experience with varieties that are a little bit older...how do you think Las Vegas would do in Houston? I've "shovel pruned" a couple of bushes already this year, and I'm looking for some good "rare" or hard-to-find varieties that are unique but will do well in Houston to replace them with. I like the coloring of LV a lot.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 JAN 19 by goncmg
I do love those that I call "lost moderns" 1950-1990! Las Vegas was bred by Kordes, out of Germany, and most roses from that house tend to do a little better in cooler climates I have found. Houston is about as hot and humid as it gets, and I just left Charleston, SC and now live in Jacksonville! If I am attracted to a rose, I buy it and try it, period. So if Las Vegas appeals, go for it. Just be ready to spray for disease and to manage that rangy, kind of floppy bush. The blooms won't last long and it is tough to get a good cutting stem. But that color really is unique and looks in person just like in the pictures!
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Discussion id : 107-217
most recent 29 DEC 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 DEC 17 by Unregistered Guest
Available from - Burlington Rose Nursery
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Discussion id : 51-395
most recent 9 JAN 11 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 6 JAN 11 by Patricia Routley
I have a reference to a Kordes rose, coded KO 67247, winning a Certificate of merit at the 1974 trials in Monza, Italy. How do I find out what this rose was? Could this have been 'Las Vegas' which HMF has as being bred in 1979?
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 6 JAN 11 by jedmar
The 1979 date for 'Las Vegas' is based on the patent application, but this is only the earliest date it was observed in USA. The real breeding year could have been earlier, though 12 years seems a long span even for a Kordes rose. They usually commercialize within 8-10 years.
Have a look also at 'Lydia', 'Grande Walzer' or 'Regina' which are closer to 1967.
I am afraid only Kordes can say what KO 67247 was.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 7 JAN 11 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Jedmar, Good advice. I know of another award-winning 24 Kordes coded roses that went through the various Trial Grounds and I have never been able to find any subsequent information on them. I have sent them an email.

The same situation actually applies to many roses from McGredy, Dickson, Tantau, Poulsen, etc.
Patricia
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 7 JAN 11 by RoseBlush
Patricia...

Last night I did a quick Google search for 'Rose Trials Monza Italy'. The results showed several links, but, it was late and I was too tired to keep researching. You might want to try to find the information that way if you don't hear back from Kordes.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 7 JAN 11 by RoseBlush
Patricia...

Sorry, I forgot to add how to do an ADVANCED SEARCH for roses that got awards by a given breeder on HMF. Do you need that information ?

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 7 JAN 11 by Patricia Routley
Yes please.
Patricia
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 7 JAN 11 by RoseBlush
Hi Patricia......

I'll send you a private email so I can make lots of comments.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 7 JAN 11 by jedmar
Many award-winning roses never make it into the market!
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 9 JAN 11 by Patricia Routley
Amazing. Makes me wonder why they put them in Rose Trials.
Jedmar, I mis-read the fine print. The Certificate of Merit for 'KO 67247' was not from Monza, but from Rome in 1974.
I have also found a different reference for a First Certificate in Rome for 'Las Vegas' in 1974
Both references are now in the respective files.
I had 'Las Vegas' once and they certainly sound the same rose.
Patricia
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Discussion id : 26-905
most recent 5 JUN 08 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 30 MAY 08 by Unregistered Guest
Does anyone have any experience wiht Las Vegas they could share? How tender is it in zone 7? How prone to black spot?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 JUN 08 by a_carl76
I believe Las Vegas should be fine in zone 7. The Dubuque Arboretum and Botanical Center (located ink Dubuque, Iowa - zone 4 maybe 5) has grown this rose for quite a few years and it is always a standout. They do mulch over the roses during the winter but as it survise beautifully every year, you should have no problem. It also does really well in the hot and humid summer that the midwest is known for.
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