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'Madame de Tartas' rose Reviews & Comments
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Checking descendants of Mme de Tartas through lineage, there are some omissions including Marie Van Houtte, Mme Lambard, Mlle Cecile Brunner and Mme Caroline Testout
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#1 of 5 posted
24 MAR 21 by
 jedmar
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That's not good! It seems there is a break somewhere in the software. Will check with HMF Admin.
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Many thanks Jedmar.
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Billy,
Yes, thank you. We are looking into this.
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Billy, this error has been corrected.
It appears to be a database corruption issue that happened many years ago and was not caught at the time. The issue was limited to this plant and had to do with combining synonyms with the rose 'Général Tartas'.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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The photos of this rose seem to be completely different colour. Which one would be correct for Austalia please? The dark pink or the cream?
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See Billy's comment of 25 March 2012. What is circulated in Australia under that name would be better called by either of its study names, "Alexandra Pink Tea" (Victoria) or "Isabel Smith" (Rookwood).
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I don’t think ‘Madame de Tartas’ is in Australia. You probably need to have a look at the separate file ‘Madame de Tartas (in Australia)’ (syn “Isabel Smith”) - that rose is a light pink tea with some habits similar to ‘Comtesse de Labarthe’.
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#3 of 3 posted
12 JAN 21 by
Duchesse
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Madame de Tartas is on the list at Reliable Roses, so I will enquire further to them about the colour of the rose, Thankyou.
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It's interesting that this rose was listed in the Harkness catalogue as late as 1967. The only other Teas in that year's catalogue were 'Mrs Foley Hobbs' and the rarity 'Shirley Hibberd'. Perhaps, like them, 'Mme. de Tartas' had been been locally preserved in Hertfordshire and propagated by the nursery.
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When lineage is brought up, this rose doesn't seem to show Cecile Brunner and Anne de (forgot the rest) as descendents. Or maybe Im blind????
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You're not blind.
Cecile Brunner 1880. Parentage is shown as (Polyantha Alba plena x Mme de Tartas)
Mme de Tartas 1859. No descendants are shown
There is a problem. Admin might like to see previous comments 69-904.
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Okay, glad Im not crazy.
I noticed when I tried to look up: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.17472.1
I also noticed that trying to search for Perle d'Or wouldnt come up in any combination I tried. I am not sure if it is because of language?? I dont know :[
I was on a 1800s polyantha research kick lol.
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#3 of 4 posted
12 NOV 17 by
jedmar
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Yes, AMdM didn't show up in the descendants of MdT either. I removed 'Madame de Tartas' as parent of 'Anne Marie de Montravel' and added it back in. Now it doers - so it seems the link was broken. My hypothesis: The link was possibly with 'Madame de Thartas' and got lost when I changed that spelling to hidden alias in 2015. To be checked.
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