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"Marie's White" rose Reviews & Comments
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14 AUG 23 by
AGBTG
After a long, wet summer still no sign of black spot while many other roses have it.
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I can find no references to what sort of prickles, if any. Does anybody have any photos of 'Mme. Jules Bouche' prickles?
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Hi Patricia,
I'm posting a photo of this plant in which you can see that it does have thorns, but they are fairly few and far between. The blooms in this photo are a bit past their prime, but I do love this plant! The blooms are large and nicely fragrant. I hope you can see the photo well enough to tell where the prickles are.
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Thank you Dianne. I really appreciate your photo - so much so, that I have made a file for my own foundling "Marie's White". I am reasonably confident that it is 'Mme. Jules Bouche', but not that confident to add my photos to 'Mme. Jules Bouche' lest they mislead, in the event that it is not that rose. Perhaps others will help guide me further.
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Hello there sorry to trouble you guys just need something clarifying. I’m in France and purchased from Loubert ‘Dr Jules Bouché which is classified as a climbing hybrid tea Crobier 1910 yet the description here states the habit as maximum height at 1m. Just wondering if the description may be erroneous here or am I confusing with another rose variety as there are two other varieties named Madame Jules Bouché Clg and Madame Jules Bouché. Thank you in advance. Peter
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#4 of 8 posted
12 JUL 23 by
Lee H.
Madame Jules Bouche from Loubert’s website is 80cm. HMF doesn’t recognize a ‘Doctor Jules Bouche’, which may be an oversight, but I suspect Loubert is using “Doctor” as a synonym for ‘Mme. Jules Bouche Clg.’, except that it wasn’t introduced by Crobier.
Edit: Rose Petals nursery uses Doctor as a synonym for ‘Mme Jules Bouche’ (presumably not climbing), just to add to the confusion…
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Thank you Lee though your reply doesn’t seem to clarify based on what I have or might not have purchased. Your right in saying that on Loubert’s web site Mme Jules Bouché is stated as having a habit of 0,8m but what I ordered and was sent is called Dr Jules Bouché (Mme) a climbing rose 3-4m création Croibier 1910. Would just like a confirmation of what variety of rose I have.
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#5 of 8 posted
12 JUL 23 by
jedmar
This rose was never called 'Dr. Jules Bouché'. Loubert is in error, based on an incorrect entry in Modern Roses. HMF has 'Dr. Jules Bouché' as a hidden name to enable searchers to arrive at the correct listing, 'Mme Jules Bouché.
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#6 of 8 posted
12 JUL 23 by
Lee H.
Darn it! Another hidden name! While you’re at it, it looks like an Italian vendor has added the synonym ‘Lisa’ (for the climbing version)
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Thank you Lee. Synonym added and your photo moved to the climber page.
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Something about this foundling said to me that there was a lot of tea in the lineage and when I read Harry Hazlewood in the 1933 reference for ‘Mme. Jules Bouche’, and which made me read further, I was fairly convinced that “Marie’s White” (named after the lady who found it at the rubbish tip) could well be ‘Mme. Jules Bouche’. Don’t you just love that? – rescuing a 1910 rose from the rubbish tip. The only thing against this identification is the 1921 reference wherein the Rev. Pemberton says “Wood and foliage claret colour”. I think he quite possibly meant to say …..NEW wood and foliage, and then everything would jell. There are many references for ‘Mme. Jules Bouche’ but they all help to really know what a rose is like. They certainly helped me. My favourite of all is the 1930 reference. Take a look. I would love other opinions on whether “Marie’s White” is or isn’t ‘Mme. Jules Bouche’.
Later edit, November 7, 2016. Margaret Furness confirms to Patricia that "Marie's White" and 'Mme Jules Bouche' at Renmark, S.A. are the same.
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30 MAR 11 by
Hardy
Although this rose is described as "moderately fragrant," I would say that, in the San Francisco Bay area, both the climbing and upright versions of this rose qualify as exceptionally fragrant, and rather uniquely scented. I'm kind of at a loss for descriptors, but will try... if Mister Lincoln, Chrysler Imperial or Don Juan could be compared to a glass of red burgundy, then Mme Jules Bouche would be more like cheesecake. Sickly HTs are a class I generally hold in contempt, but I bought this one, despite its mildew problems, for the scent alone.
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