'mme jules gravereaux' and 'comtesse de noghera' at sangerhausen are identical.

As there are now 80 photos of 'Mme. Jules Gravereaux', finding this thread in future would be difficult. I am therefore reprinting here the comments attached to the photos from Brenton George:

Reply #3 of 4 posted yesterday by Margaret Furness
I asked David Ruston where his original plant of Mme Jules came from, but it wasn't documented. Ruston's has been for a long time the major source of budwood in Australia.

Reply #4 of 4 posted yesterday by billy teabag
We had a note from David a few years back saying that he had at last got hold of this rose - that he had obtained it from M. Ross. I don't know the provenance beyond this. It was very likely an import from Beales ex Wyatt ex ?? but there was a rose found in Tasmania by Lilia Weatherly that was said to be 'Mme Jules Gravereaux' (Lilia wrote of this in the journal of HRIA and I'll add the ref to hmf), so it just might be this one.

- and now adding a comment of my own:
'Mme. Jules Gravereaux' was mentioned in the Australian Rose Annual
1931-100 exhibited in Melbourne, Victoria.
1933-113 and 1934-123. Grown at Guildford, Western Australia.
Patricia

This is a very healthy rose in my organic garden in Richmond Virginia, USA. Blooms off and on all summer, even during drought. I really can't figure out why people would bother with roses that need spraying when there are so many good roses from the 1800's that are good organic garden candidates. It certainly was an amazing century, all roses I've tried from that century have been very disease resistant except Gloire de Dijon, that one was a blackspot magnet.