"Origin and Breeding Controlled pollination: seed parent ‘Korruge’ syn Rugelda x pollen parent (‘Westerland’ x seedling). The seed parent is characterised by light yellow flower colour and petal margins with reddish tinge. The pollen parent is a breeding selection in breeder’s private collection. In spring/summer pollen from ‘Westerland’ x seedling was applied to a flower of ‘Korruge’ syn Rugelda."
Well, first of all if a plant is available from Palatine there is no reason on the earth to get it from Hortico. Now, as to Caramel Antike and Caramel Fairy tale. I happen to have both. The HT Caramel Antike does not do that well in my garden, gets canker and dies back often but the few blooms I got were very beautiful; however I expected more of a rose that is supposed to be a florist rose. The floribunda Fairy tale, on the other hand is spectacular. I garden in zone 8, so the measurement by Kordes does not apply. This rose is 8 or 9 feet tall in my garden and about 7' wide and covered with huge blooms from top to bottom; the buds are rusty red, open into caramel and finish in creamy apricot yellow. Gorgeous! It has spotless foliage that is rare in the humid east coast. It even has some scent. I highly recommend it.
Caramel Fairytale sounds like the better garden rose. I notice from your profile that you are in the USA. It would be helpful to know where, aside from your USDA climate zone. It would help (me at least) put your growing experiences in better context.
Sorry for not mentioning that I garden in the very humid coastal east NC, zone 8. Blackspot and botrytis rule here, so I am very grateful for every rose that above that would not be touched by these fungal curses.
Thanks for filling in the picture. My father's family came from North Carolina, most of them settling in and around Rocky Mount. My uncle Worth, however, lived in Elizabeth City and also had a place in Nags Head. I have many happy memories, though now rather dim, of visiting there as a child. The beach was wonderful, and the fishing was amazing. I remember most the heat and humidity -- something a child growing up in San Francisco doesn't experience ever. It felt like "a jungle" to me as a child. It must present challenges for growing roses, especially with blackspot. I hadn't thought of botrytis! Good luck with your roses.
I know this is a silly comment, but I find I always get Caramel Fairy Tale and Caramel Antike confused in my head. I just cannot remember which plant has which name. They are both Kordes roses released about the some time and with similar looking flowers.
I just wish Kordes (and other breeders) would make more of an effort to come up with really distinct names for their new introductions so muddle-headed folks like me don't get them hopelessly confused!
Last year was my first year with this rose so she quite young. She spent most of that year growing. I live in northern Illinois and all her canes grew a good 5 feet so give her room. No diesease, I did not spray. No winter protection maybe 3 to 4 inches of live cane considering the nasty winter we had thats pretty good for a tiny own root band. I'll soon see how well she does this year. Pat Forgot to add Ashdown Roses has this rose also.
Caramel F T did very well in it's 2nd year. Considering I'm fighting rose midge, it still had blooms all season. Flowers last a long time on the bush. Did not spray fungicides, it had a few black spots not many, no mildew, no ceraspora in the fall. It grew 5 feet tall again so looks like thats it's height here in zone 5. The best news for me this spring after it's 2nd winter ( the coldest here since the 1970's a bone chilling minus 25) she's alive with no winter protection. Color me happy. Sorry I did not see your question sooner. Pat
