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'Nyveldt's White' rose Reviews & Comments
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In the book cited below it lists Nyveldt's White as being "very hardy to zone 3-4" which is much hardier than the zone listed for this rose. Would this be enough of a source to change the hardiness zone? Thank you.
Richard Hass, Jerry Olsen and John Whitman. Growing Roses in Cold Climates. Minneapolis: U of Minnesota, 2012. Page 113.
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Robert - I have added a 4a cold zone. Please tell us if it needs to be adjusted.
Patricia
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Thank you Patricia.
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15 FEB 16
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True-blue - there is a misleading spelling in your comment. GST did not spell it 'Nyvelt's White'. He spelt it 'Nyveldt's White'. He did not say it had fresh green leaches, but had fresh green leaves. Perhaps you might like to double check any spelling in your comments.
Admin - I am deleting the name you added on Feb 15, 'Nyvelt's White'.
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Sorry for the typos, and I thought I had doubled checked!
My mistake was due to Cornhill's misspelled listing:
http://cornhillnursery.com/retail/roses/rosarugosa/nyvelt.html
I wrote to them today, about the spelling mistake.
I apologize for the confusion.
When I searched for Nyvelt (incorrect spelling) on the HMF site, I came upon a rose named Novelty.
When I turned to GST, I misread with the wrong spelling.
Voilà, hope it explains it all.
- Bob
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For some reason I can't post/edit on HMF from my computer!
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Here you are, corrected. Again my apologies....
Graham Stuart Thomas - Rosebook 1994 edition. P. 189
'Nyveldt's White'. Nyveldt, Holland, 1955. Rosa rugosa 'Rubra' x R cinnamomea crossed with
R. nitida. This shows more affinity to R. rugosa and makes a large, arching shrub with fresh
green leaves. The flowers are borne in clusters, single, of cold, pure white; recurrent.
Fragrant. Heps orange-red.
Austin, page 239
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Delbard 2003 p.33
Nyveldt's White
Variété créée par 1955 en Belgique. Le feuillage résistant bien particulier aux Rugosa, en fait un élément décoratif à part entière. Les fleurs blanc pur simples, apparaissent régulièrement pendant tout l'été. Leur parfum est tout à fait étonnant. Les gros fruits, très décoratifs sont rouge-orangés. Arbuste résistant et vigoureux, idéal en massif. Hauteur lm50.
Approx. translation:
Created in 1955 in Belgium. Resistant foliage, typical of Rugosas, a decorative element in its self.
The pure white flowers, simple, appear regularly during summer. Surprising fragrance. Big hip, very decorative, red-orange. Resistant and vigourous bush. Ideal for flowerbeds. Height: 1.50 m
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#1 of 6 posted
15 FEB 16 by
 Jay-Jay
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Belgium isn't right... see http://members.casema.nl/peter.van.tol/Stambomen/Nijveldt.htm
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#2 of 6 posted
15 FEB 16 by
Jay-Jay
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At first look at Boskoop: http://members.casema.nl/peter.van.tol/
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Thanks Jay-Jay for the links.
I managed to decipher them thanks to google translate.
I tend to agree with, since GST, which is much more reliable than a nursery catalog, mentions the country. Holland. I thought it would be interesting to post it. Anyway catalogs from countries other than that of the hybridizer, tend to be somewhat fanciful and some of the information gets lost in translation.
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#4 of 6 posted
15 FEB 16 by
Jay-Jay
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It is not difficult to mix both tiny countries up, but a little bit of chauvinism prickled me to look after the lineage. I knew the breeder was from Boskoop and still some descendants might live there.
The name is not common in The Netherlands, but location bound. (Btw, Nij-veldt is ancient Dutch for "new field")
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#5 of 6 posted
15 FEB 16 by
Jay-Jay
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PS: as for translating, this is a very good (Dutch)site: http://www.mijnwoordenboek.nl/
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Thanks Jay-Jay.
Yes I came upon your comments on Mr. Nyveltdt's page and your discussions with his son. Very edifying :-)
Unless he worked for a time in Belgium, which I doubt!
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American Rose Annual, vol. 50 (1965)
Nijveldts White Rg (A. A. Nijveldt ’58) R. rugosa x R. cinnamomea. Ovoid bud. White, large, single blooms. Slight fragrance. Many thorns. Vigorous growth.
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#1 of 4 posted
9 MAY 13 by
Tessie
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Hmm, this post makes me wonder where HMF got the parentage below which it shows for Nyveldt's White on the Description page:
"seed: Paulii × Rosa cinnamomea L. synonym
pollen: Rosa nitida Willd."
None of the listed references show such a pedigree.
Melissa
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#2 of 4 posted
12 MAY 13 by
jedmar
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There were several parentages with Paulii listed among Nijveldt's roses. It seems that this was due to an earlier false synonym R. rugosa rubra for Paulii, which was deleted. All parentages are now corrected, thank you! The only remaining issue is that references juxtapose seed and pollen parents.
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#3 of 4 posted
13 MAY 13 by
Tessie
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Thank you Jedmar, that makes perfect sense. I guess I'm like a toddler at the "why" stage--when I see something out of place, I will often ask why!
Melissa
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#4 of 4 posted
13 MAY 13 by
jedmar
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This is the advantage of HMF, many eyes see more!
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