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'Lord Byron' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 146-560
most recent 14 JUL 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 JUL 23 by Deborah's rose Garden
A real winner after a year in my coastal northern California garden. Polka has grown steadily and strongly to 5 feet without support. The whole plant is as advertised. This is no dainty thing, but strong and cheerful. The blooms are bright, ruffled, and fragrant. There are large thorns. The flowers hold up very well in a vase. Minimal disease/pests.
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Discussion id : 145-027
most recent 23 MAY 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 MAY 23 by Kim W Florida 10b Humid
Available from - High Country Roses
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Discussion id : 132-256
most recent 6 APR 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 APR 22
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Discussion id : 112-511
most recent 21 NOV 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 AUG 18 by Michael Garhart
Most of Meilland codes ending with "sar" are climbing mutations. Only a few exceptions (Papa Meilland is one). So the likelihood of the unknown portion of the lineage of Polka is probably a climbing sport of a known rose. There have been known to be translation errors in Meilland codes over the decades, and Meilland has used Cl. Bettina (MEIpalsar) for other climbers, so its suspect to me at this point.

Edit: I did searching for no reason. The answer is right here in the US Patent:

"The female parent (i.e., the seed parent) was the product of the pollination of the Meipalsar variety (non-patented in the United States) and the Golden Showers variety (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 1,557). The male parent (i.e., the pollen parent) of the new variety was the Light Konigin Lucia variety (non-patented in the United States). The parentage of the new variety can be summarized as follows:

(Meipalsar×Golden Showers)×Licht Konigin Lucia."
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 19 NOV 18 by Jay-Jay
The parentage is shown on the description page, but there is written Meipaisar instead of Meipalsar. Maybe a typo or forgotten to put glasses on?
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 19 NOV 18 by Patricia Routley
Definitely forgot the glasses. Now fixed. Many thanks to you both.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 20 NOV 18 by Michael Garhart
Woohoo!

I just noticed a typo for Cl. Bettina. It says 'Mepalsar', instead of 'Meipalsar', so the lineage for Polka isnt connecting.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 20 NOV 18 by Jay-Jay
Extracted from: https://www.plantago.nl/plantindex/plant/BO/R/1/rosa-mepalsar/14973.html

Botanische naam: Rosa 'Meipalsar' (Climbing Bettina)
Geslacht: Rosa
Groep: Trosbloemige Klimmer Groep (Klimroos)
Synoniemen: Rosa Climbing Bettina , Rosa 'Grimpant Bettina' , Rosa 'Mepalsar'
Familie: Rosaceae (Rozenfamilie)

I wrote to Meilland too via their contact-form, which name is the right-one for Bettina Cl.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 20 NOV 18 by Alain Meilland
The orignal variety is BETTINA® Mepal (without the i of Mei)
The Climber mutation of BETTINA® Mepal was registered under the varietal name Meipalsar (with the i of Mei)
Don't ask me why, I wasn't born ;)
Best regards
Matthias Meilland
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 21 NOV 18 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Matthias.
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