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Discussion id : 40-085
most recent 2 NOV 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 OCT 09 by Barbara NZ
Normally I like to make glowing comments about the wonderful roses we grow, but I am afraid this rose has disease problems that just cannot be solved unless you want to spray, which I don't. Even then I am not sure it will help. It was a gift rose and I was pleased to get it but now I have to find a place for it where it will not infect other plants. Its black spot and mildew start right away even before the roses first bloom so think twice before buying it.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 30 OCT 09 by Ingrid W.
I've had this rose since January 2004. It mildewed the first two or three years (I rarely if ever spray for anything, with only one fungus spray during a very bad year). I'm hoping that mildew is a thing of the past since it's matured and not a result of other environmental differences. We see little if any BS here. I'm in CZ 9, and the rose is in a southern exposure surrounded by other roses, so it experiences full day sun but less than optimal air circulation. I must say the beautiful strong cerise colored blooms during the spring and fall flushes have a great deal of substance and last forever on the bush or as a cut flower, although it does shut down bloom production during our hot summer months (90's and low 100's), like many of my other roses. I find no fragrance to speak of.

Ingrid, how nice to read your reply and it gives me hope that maybe I will have better luck wth this rose later on. In the meantime I have moved it to a pot and redid all of the soil and found that it was quite dry and we all know that roses that are stressed can get diseased. Most references I have read said that it is prone to some disease but I agree with you that the flowers are lovely and I don't envy your hot weather but my son lives in Phoenix and so I understand your challenges. Thanks for your positive thoughts.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 2 NOV 09 by Palustris
Maybe I am not in a mildew zone, but this rose has been pretty disease free for me. It does lose some leaves after its first flush of flowers but then regrows plenty of fresh maroon leaves so that it rarely looks too bad in my environment.

I really do have an issue with the color of this rose, however, and had to put it in spot by itself as it clashed horribly with reds like 'Frensham'. I love the shape of the flowers and the growth habit of the bush, but really don't care for the color of the flowers.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 2 NOV 09 by Ingrid W.
Yes, the color is an almost garish neon pink, but I have yellow and yellow/pink blend roses around it, so the color "pops" but doesn't clash. It looks really great when cut and put in a black vase. Stunning!
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 2 NOV 09 by Ingrid W.
Barbara, I've been trying to reply to your reply, which appeared in the text of my message. I'll try replying to your original post again. Yes, lack of water may have stressed it, so I hope it'll perform better for you with added water! The summer heat really has an effect on my roses (and me!), but our winters are relatively mild (down to a minimum of 28 F degrees for a few nights/year on occasion, but usually a few degrees warmer on the coldest nights), so it's a trade-off! I'm less a fan of cold weather than of hot weather, although, unfortunately, we can't grow Gallicas!
Ingrid, It appears that our replies do end up in the text of your reply as well. I could send an email to verizon but I will just carry on here for now.
I do grow Gallicas and have Duchesse de Montebello and Cosimo Ridolfi, hope these spellings are right as I am winging it at present. I have many old roses and all of the Albas are about out now and so many things like Mme Gregoire Staechlin which has to be my favorite. Where are you in the US as I used to live in Santa Barbara and could hardly grow what I wanted there because it was too warm for lilacs and peonies for instance. But here on the South Island of New Zealand I have the weather to grow them all. I had to laugh at the other replies as the color of the Rosemary Rose is a bit brash but it is a lovely rose and if it needs more water well it is getting it now! My garden is huge though and pots are just a nuisance and things really need to be in the ground. By the way "Palustris" that is a rose that I am trying to get as I have a boggy area that would suit it so well! It is R. Carolina breeding and such a lovely species. I have just been sent seed of Rosa Primula and I am almost afraid to sow it! I am sharing it with a few good propagators to share the risk as we do not have this rose in New Zealand. Thanks to all for their comments.
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Discussion id : 40-198
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Initial post 2 NOV 09 by Ingrid W.
Barbara, I think this one needs to get established and appreciates having its regular watering. I've seen nothing but disease-free foliage and lots of blooms once both of these criteria were met, but that's in my garden. I hope yours does the same for you with time and a little extra water!
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