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'White Wings' rose Reviews & Comments
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Today, I saw a child of 'White Wings', 'Flamingo', in full bloom in the garden at Joy Creek Nursery near Portland, Oregon. The sepals were noticeably long, reminding me of 'Spray Cécile Brunner', but also somewhat squared at the tips, as if tailored. The sepal length suggests that 'White Wings' may particularly be descended from 'Spray Cécile Brunner'.
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I found your comment most interesting and went searching through the Krebs roses. He bred some really good ones and your theory is quite likely and the dates make it feasible. . Many thanks for the morning stimulation Sequoia - you have a good eye.
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#2 of 2 posted
22 MAY 21 by
Sequoia
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My pleasure, Patricia! I deeply appreciate your generous, informed contributions. Thank you! HMF is great!
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18 JAN 12 by
 goncmg
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Dainty Bess REALLY escapes me, single and pink and still around in huge volume 83 years later. This one ALSO escapes me albeit less than Dainty Bess because the size of the bloom can be immense. In my experience the blooms on White Wings can reach 6 inches across and again, apparently the maroon stamen/anther is hugely recessive so may have had a hand in making this one so marketable. I have a hard time not believing Dainty Bess is not a parent because the plants look so similar, foliage and habit. Singles just annoy me when sold as Hybrid Teas! Anyone who has hybridized at all hs had a zillion Dainty Bess pop up in the seed bed and only slightly less White Wings..............the variety just is what it is..................your only choice if you like white and like singles..................
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Hybrid Teas were what they were all those years ago. These days, they'd be pretty well absorbed into the floribunda class. I've collected and grown most of the single HTs available in the US at one time or another and found them to be elegant and exquisite. The one I have maintained in my current garden is Cecil, one of the most satisfactory yellow roses I've ever grown.
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18 JAN 12 by
goncmg
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I just do not like the singles, Kim. I know and appreciate that they were in vogue for a while, Irish Fireflame, Ellen Willmott, Mrs. Oakley Fisher...........just can never get on board............my issue, I admit...............Cecil is a good one, had a plant years ago..........but even Lilac Charm, just for me, totally personally, hate singles.......
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5 SEP 20 by
petera
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Do you still have Cecil and are happy that it is correctly identified? It would be great if you were able to post some good diagnostic pictures as they would help with identifying "Bishops Lodge Precious Porcelain".
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I wish I could, Petera. I loved Cecil but knew when we sold our old home and retired to Santa Maria, we wouldn't have enough room to take everything with us. I gave Cecil to Tom Carruth at The Huntington Library for their rose garden. He retrieved it from me at our home on March 15, 2015 to take to The Huntington to have it budded and put in the gardens there. I've just looked at your Bishop's Lodge Precious Porcelain and I don't believe that is Cecil. Cecil isn't a creamy color, but a definite yellow. It has more pointed petals, like all the photos of it on the Cecil page demonstrate. The foliage is a bright, dark green as opposed to the reddish, nearly "Tea-like" look of the foliage I see from Bishop's Lodge Precious Porcelain. I would bet your rose is one of the "Irish" series from Dickson, perhaps Irish Simplicity, though from the photos, I would bet it is Irish Harmony. And, yes, I am sure my rose was properly identified. It was propagated from a very old planting, dating from before WWII, when the single HT's were still commonly available.
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6 SEP 20 by
petera
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Thanks Kim, I also regret not taking plants when I last moved home. Cecil has been generally discounted as the identity of BL Prec. Porcelain but some contemporary pictures of Cecil would be useful regardless. I think Irish Harmony is the best match. I am a big fan of many of the singles. Peter
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My pleasure, Peter. I'm also a fan of the single HT's. I wish there were more of them still around! It's fortunate several more have survived down there.
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The listed parentage is in error. Straight from the patent for this rose, attached to this page, "My present invention relates to a new and improved variety of single hybrid tea rose plant. It was produced by me from a cross of two unnamed seedlings which in turn had been produced by me. This new variety is of the same type as the variety Dainty Bess but has a pure white flower and is a much stronger grower." The parentage should read, "Seedling X Seedling"
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