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    most recent 5 JUL 18  
    RoseSirenella
    Initial post 3 JUL 18 by Cà Berta
    An analysis of catalogue Benedetto Sgaravatti n. 322 shows that each rose is listed with the name of the breeder/discoverer. Among these breeders/discoverers are some italians (Cazzaniga, Mansuino, Moro, Borgatti, BARTOLINI, Panconi, Stazione Sperimentale di Sanremo). The only roses without the breeder/discoverer’s name are roses bred by internal workers of Vivai Sgaravatti. Among these roses (Cocò, Oreste Sgaravatti, Ricordo di Leone Sgaravatti, S. Antonio da Padova, Sirenella) is Sirenella that, for this reason, can hardly be attributed to Bartolini.
    Reply #1 posted 4 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
    Shall we change the breeder to Benedetto Sgaravatti?
    Reply #2 posted 5 JUL 18 by Cà Berta
    With these data I think it is the correct thing to do.
    Reply #3 posted 5 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
    Done. Thanks Bruna.
    most recent 28 JUL 15  
    RoseSirenella
    Initial post 27 JUL 15 by andrewandsally
    'Sirenella' [Little Mermaid] is listed in the Grandi Vivai Benedetto Sgaravatti general catalogue (no. 322) 1961-62 on p. 27 - which also lists Bartolini's 'Marisa' - and described briefly as "salmone-corallo. Bocciolo doppio - recisi." As with 'Contessa M Bismarck', this variety is listed in a period when the Sgaravatti catalogues carried quite long lists (25 in this case) of Italian-bred roses which are rarely illustrated and, at the same time, announced exclusive agreements with foreign breeders, Gaujard in 1960, whose varieties are mostly well-illustrated.
    Reply #1 posted 27 JUL 15 by Patricia Routley
    Re 'Sirenella' - we've added G. Bartolini as the breeder, before 1961, and the colour.

    We have Contessa M Bismarck listed as 1963. Not sure if it was shown in this 1961-62 catalogue?
    Reply #2 posted 28 JUL 15 by andrewandsally
    'Contessa M Bismarck' is not listed in the Grandi Vivai Sgaravatti general catalogues until 1963-64 where it appears on page 6.. 'Sirenella' first makes its first appearance in the 1961-62 catalogue and again in 1965-6; on both occasions its date is given as 1961.
    Reply #3 posted 28 JUL 15 by Patricia Routley
    OK. Thanks.