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'Rosa laevigata f. rosea' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 97-128
most recent 19 FEB 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 JAN 17 by Girija and Viru
Laevigata rosea
Laevigata rosea is a variety of R.laevigata cultivated in many places in Japan. The Japanese appear to feel that it is a mutant of the species. But having grown it for many years we think that it is probably a seedling of R.laeviagata, of the same type as Anemone, but different.
It must have been around for quite sometime in Japan as it is mentioned even in that well known book by Gerd Krussman ‘The Complete Book of Roses’.

One has to be clear whether laevigata rosea from Japan is the same plant which was being grown by Trevor Griffiths in his New Zealand collection. I get the impression that what he was growing was a color mutant of the species and not a seedling of the species which is what I feel is the plant grown in Japan, Peter Beales in his catalogue refers to a pink form of R.laevigata which he got from Trevor Griffiths. Clearly, a n expert like him would not have mistaken a seedling of R.laevigata for a pink form of the species In fact I had also written to Trevor many years back asking for some bud-wood of this pink laevigata, but he seemed reluctant to proceed further, possibly because of phyto-sanitary etc issues. To sum up, I feel that Trevor Griffiths pink Laevigata is indeed a color mutant of the species unlike the Japanese laevigata rosea which appears to be a species seedling, like Anemone . and its sport, Ramona.

But the laevigata rosea in Japan is almost certainly a hybrid and not a color mutant of the species.

The Japanese plant has foliage like R. laevigata but it is not invariably trifoliate. The size of the foliage and the shine on it is substantially less than that of R. laevigata itself.

In fact the foliage is not too different from that of Anemone.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 28 JAN 17 by jedmar
'Anemone' or 'Pink Cherokee' has been grown in Japan since over 100 years. I do not see a difference to Rosa laevigata rosea. The older drawings of 'Anemone' by Ellen Willmott and in "Revue Horticole" are of a trifoliate plant. It is true that the drawing from the catalogue of the Yokohama Nursery (1909) shows up to 5 leaflets. In the "Journal of the Arnold Arboretum" of 1921, there is a more detailed description of the differences between Rosa laevigata and 'Anemone': it is especially highlighted that the stipules are "adnate about one half of their length to the petiole". Girija, can you post a photo of the stipules of 'Rosa laevigata rosea" for clarification please?
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 28 JAN 17 by Girija and Viru
Have just posted 3 pics of the stipules
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 28 JAN 17 by jedmar
Thank you. It seems to me that the form of the stipules and the red colour of stipules and bristles points to a hybrid origin, not only a pink form of R. laevigata. But I am not a botanist - maybe another member can comment?
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 29 JAN 17 by Patricia Routley
I am no botanist either. But they are wonderfully clear photos Girija. For interest, do you also have one of the receptacle? Does it show any signs of the spikiness of R. laevigata?
Up until 1992 Peter Beales never saw a bloom of the R. laevigata rosea – colour mutant rose that Trevor Griffiths sent him. Probably a bit too cold in Norfolk. The Heritage Roses New Zealand Register says there is a plant of it in the Trevor Griffiths Garden. Does any New Zealander know if it is still there? Comparable photos of the receptacle, bloom, typical leaf, and stipule would be most interesting.

Later edit. Correction - The Register says it used to be in the Trevor Griffiths Garden and that it is known to be in a private garden.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 18 FEB 17 by Patricia Routley
Murray Radka in New Zealand grows R. Laevigata rosea. He has not described it to me, but says it came either from Griffiths or Alan Sinclair and is checking the provenance.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 19 FEB 17 by Girija and Viru
Patricia, I have just now uploaded two photographs of the receptacle of laevigata rosea
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 19 FEB 17 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Girija. The bristles appear shorter than those of R. Laevigata.
I have put some characteristics in the Notes on the main page and hopefully Mr. Radka will one day add some photos of his plant.
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