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'Lucifer' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 122-411
most recent 5 FEB 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 JUL 20 by HubertG
What a horrible name for a rather nice rose!
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by Give me caffeine
Depends on your perspective.
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Lucifer (/ˈluːsɪfər/ 'light-bringer', corresponding to the Greek name Ἑωσφόρος, 'dawn-bringer', for the same planet) is a Latin name for the planet Venus in its morning appearances and is often used for mythological and religious figures associated with the planet...

Interpretations of a similar term in the Hebrew Bible, translated in the King James Version as "Lucifer" as a proper name, led to a Christian tradition of applying the name Lucifer, and its associated stories of a fall from heaven, to Satan, but modern scholarship generally translates the term in the relevant Bible passage, (Isaiah 14:12), as "morning star" or "shining one" rather than as a proper name, "Lucifer".
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From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

Although if someone named a rose 'Morning Star' or 'Shining One' I doubt anybody would complain. Which is amusing, when you think of it.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by HubertG
Well, the association is still there. I guess it won't exactly be a commercial success if it's ever available outside of Japan and isn't renamed.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by Give me caffeine
The Church of Satan and The Satanic Temple would probably be enthusiastic. You'd probably bag a few Rolling Stones fans too. The Vatican might not be so enthused, and I suspect the US evangelicals would be apoplectic (but then they usually are).
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by HubertG
I can imagine a nice bed of 'Lucifer' and perhaps Pedro Dot's 'Satan' out the front of their satanic temple, lol!

It's not a rose for me in any case.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by Give me caffeine
'Satan' was bred by Lorenzo Pahissa. ;)
Which I just found out, having been curious enough to look it up. It's a gorgeous rose.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by HubertG
Oh, my mistake; it wasn't Dot after all. Yes, nice rose, horrible name and marketing strategy.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 2 JUL 20 by Margaret Furness
There are worse names. Eg Seduction (which was also the model of a car I used to drive). French Kiss. Others I appear to have deleted from my memory: more like the names of perfumes than things you would ask a nurseryman / woman for.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 5 FEB 22 by Michael Garhart
I think it was Sean M. that had S.W.A.L.K.

Sealed with a loving kiss.

I thought it was cute. Exhibition red/white bicolor mini that would have taken trophies at the time, except no one wanted the climbing part about it lol.

It is plausible in Japan that Lucifer isnt as strict as the Western sense of the term. They almost never release roses to other nations, so its not really anything to think about it, to be honest.
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