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most recent 3 MAR 21  
Initial post 18 MAY 20 by Plazbo
Does anyone know anything more about this rose? Just seems odd that it's only in Australia. Why'd Kordes not release it in Europe?

The only thing google gives me is the same blurb/description from the selling page. Can't find any reference to it that isn't the adelaide trials or treloars.
Reply #1 posted 18 MAY 20 by jedmar
It was awarded a bronzemedal at the 2019 Australian Trials. We see that several breeders launch some roses only in the Southern Hemisphere (Australia, South Africa). The reason probably is that these need a relatively sunny, dry climate and would not perform well at all in moist, damp, wet, cool old Europe. Then there are varities which are marketed in Japan only, because Japanese seem to like playful, frilly varieties, which again would not sell well in Europe.
Reply #2 posted 19 MAY 20 by Plazbo
Probably....just not something I've noticed before. Every other Kordes being sold here I can find more information on from various global sources so it just stands out as odd....particularly with Australia being such a small market, just doesn't compute for Kordes to bother if that makes sense. I might be over thinking it.

It's low thorn (potentially "thornless" in the same way Blue Moon is "thornless" but has a few thorns lower down) based on what I can see from the approx foot each of 3 canes on the one that arrived yesterday.

Hopefully fertile (reportedly makes a lot of hips) because spots and lavenders (including seedlings) is a hurdle that's not working out great for me :)
Reply #3 posted 19 MAY 20 by jedmar
Sometimes they seem to introduce them in test markets, before Europe or USA
Reply #4 posted 3 MAR 21 by Michael Garhart
Kordes also markets in Japan. I only know this because of the Japanese food store one city over LOL. I sometimes look at the magazines out of curiosity, and Kordes ads are in some.

Anyway, its a type of predatory marketing, combined with international branding to boost its name brand. All legal, but still kind of meh. In America, they patent some at a loss.
most recent 2 MAR 21  
Initial post 1 MAR 21 by Plazbo
After the fairly wet weather, has put out two new canes (both with a few side shoots) that have close to 50 buds each cane....so crazy amount of blooms, like they finally recovered the polyantha bloom capacity in a floribunda sized plant.

Doesn't seem to set OP hips but does seem capable of setting hips if pollinated (which seems to be a kind of trend with these newer Kordes, possibly actively selecting against OP hip set?). Hips so far have been less spherical and more small bottled shape but may still be swelling up (only manually pollinated approx a month ago).
Reply #1 posted 1 MAR 21 by styrax
I'd love to see it in commerce states-side. Looks like a real charmer
Reply #2 posted 2 MAR 21 by Plazbo
Hopefully one day it makes it's way over there.

I like it more than I thought I would (whereas I like Adorable, another new highly rated Kordes mauve, far far less than expected). Apart from the usual petal damage from extremes it's fuss free despite being tightly packed in the land of pots at the moment. Will likely do much better when in the ground and given more space.
most recent 4 MAY 20  
Initial post 4 MAY 20 by Plazbo
It's interesting that the national rose trial list this as moderate scent whereas treloars say it's very slight on their facebook (in comments)

http://www.nationalrosetrialgarden.net.au/award-winners/2019-award-winners/

https://m.facebook.com/treloarroses/posts/10161835647970207