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'X145-D1' rose Reviews & Comments
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I'm super disappointed. I just winter pruned this rose today, and I pruned off 3/4 of the total stems. This rose has a lot of dieback when it should not. While pruning, I noticed the wood is rather thin. Even the larger stems are a bit bendy. Of the good wood, a raspberry cane borer decided to finish off that entire basal.
This is a problem for growing it in the Pacific NW... The same problem as Ketchup and Mustard.
This is why testing commercial roses ONLY in the Deep South and Desert SW is not the greatest of ideas by these corporations.
They cannot test for these problems, because they are entirely climatic responses by the varieties.
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Thank you. You saved me from buying it. I was tempted to get it as own root for my zone 5, but most likely it won't survive my winter if the cane is thin. Stephen Big Purple survived seven winters as own root since its cane is thicker.
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I was very sad about this, because SMB had fat, rounded clusters and nice fragrance, on a rounded plant. All of what I want in a flori.
I have yet to go prune Perfume Factory, another newer one. Neptune does well here so I hope for no problems with PF.
Actually, I have 3 now. A nursery mislabeled one, so I sent it to the farm to grow. Then I liked it so I got one. And then JP sent me Perfume Factory instead of what I ordered lol. Its not a bad rose. I will evaluate its winter wood this month though.
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Thank you, I would love to learn the winter hardiness of Perfume Factory, since Neptune died on zone 5 & zone 6 folks. Sweet Madame Blue is listed as 2 to 3 feet tall by 2 feet wide .. and for non-Austin to survive zone 5, they need to be at least 3 feet tall. Big Purple got over 3 feet tall and survived seven zone 5 winters. Austin Young Lycidas is very purple & very fragrant but it died fast for cold zoners. My Young Lycidas was 1 foot tall with super-thin stems, and the plant is smaller than a petunia nearby !! I thought my black clay was bad, until another cold-zoner said her Young Lycidas is also under 1 foot.
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I went to prune my Perfume Factory, and 3 huge canes got raspberry cane borer (a local issue, as this is berry country), which does not discriminate roses. I have even seen them dig into Rosa glutinosa. OUCH! So I will not be able to tell til I make it out to the farm where the other clone is.
Neptune does not get it, however. It can be tender to winter snaps (massive temp drops in late winter/early spring), but the wood is okay versus the cruddy stuff.
I bought 3 new mauves last year, at quite the premium. I have no idea how their wood mature, as they are immature own-roots. Muriel Robin, Simply Gorgeous, and Purple Fragrancia.
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Available from - High Country Roses
www.highcountryroses.com
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SMB has been a pretty tough little rose. It's been more disease resistant than most purple roses I've grown which are notoriously disease prone. She has gotten some blackspot, but nothing to the tune of, lets say, Angel Face. The deer ate her more than once, and she's bounce back better than some of the others that were part of the buffet. The fragrance is great, which is a plus. SMB is in the upper tear of purples IMO, but Melody Parfumee' is still my favorite of the class, although she gets much larger than SMB.
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So, scent is strong citrus with floral mix. It reminded me a lot of Shocking Blue scent.
Color is widely variable. Cool season weather has dark purple going grape colors, eventually becoming silvery lavender. The summer color has been like a darker violet variant of Wild Blue Yonder, becoming silvery lilac (as opposed to lavender) as it ages. It has stayed quite rounded and not tall at all. I quite like it. Very standard floribunda clusters, bloom size, and plant size.
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