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'Buff Beauty' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 10-855
most recent 29 OCT 21 SHOW ALL
Initial post 13 JAN 06 by Cass
Stiff, awkward, horizontal grower. This is not a shrub, as it requires support to get off the ground. An odd clone of this rose or perhaps oddly budded. Scent carries on the air. Fall flush really is good. Lovely in the Historic Rose Garden of the Old Sacramento City Cemetery.
Reply #1 of 7 posted 3 MAY 09 by Jeff Britt
I have to second this post. Buff Beauty has been a rather troubled plant for me. It started out well and sent out two big new canes in its second year, but since then has only produced new growth from on top the existing canes. These canes have grown heavy and are as flexible as rebar, but are very productive with flowers. I wish it would produce new growth from the base without my having to whack back the existing canes to induce it. That said, I love the flowers, especially in the cool spring and fall weather when the colors are a rich orange-apricot. Definitely one of my favorite roses.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 14 JUL 09 by Jeff Britt
I have to amend my comment from May of this year. I decided to lavish my Buff Beauty with more water and fertilizer this year and the results quite startled me. The first flush of bloom was as usual, starting around April 20 and carrying on for about five weeks. I dead-headed the flowers, fertilized and watered heavily and BOOM! The plant has thrown out new growth all over the place and sent out a several whopping new canes. Its second flush of blooms started to open this week and there are probably twice as many buds this time as in April/May. There are a couple of huge panicles of buds (probably 20 - 30) and scores of the regular clusters (of about 5 - 9 buds), and the flowers are bigger, too. I am really surprised and delighted. At this rate, the fall flush of bloom should be beyond spectacular.

I guess I've learned that BB likes a bit more water and food than some other roses. I have Radox Bouquet planted nearby and it has received the same treatment. RB has been very productive this year, but hardly the transformed rose BB is. All I can say is WOW!
Reply #3 of 7 posted 14 JUL 09 by Cass
You've confirmed my impression of many roses raised in the UK: they love water.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 30 NOV 12 by Simon Voorwinde
Late comer to this thread. Here, in Australia, my 'Buff Beauty' grows as a shrub. Its habit is typically hybrid musk-like in that it sends up canes from basal growth that grows up and then arches over. It doesn't get much water where it is either and needs to compete with a small tree adjacent to it for what water it gets. Terrfic health. Mine is grafted onto multiflora.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 27 OCT 21 by peterdewolf
thank you for that review. The new canes that you speak of, are they rigid, can they be trained to an incline to encourage lateral breaks or does this rose just produce flowers at the end of rigid canes. And can you speak of the fragrance, I'm afraid I don't know what a 'musk' frangrance is. If it's a funky fragrance I might get a revolt from my operations manager indoors :-)
Reply #6 of 7 posted 28 OCT 21 by Margaret Furness
Flexible. I just let mine grow and arch as it chose - see photo 351278 of it hiding a tank 4 November. There are a few horizontal wires but mostly it is self-supporting. In good conditions it can use a lot of space.
The hybrid musks were bred to be good garden roses. The group name isn't a good indicator because they weren't bred from the musk rose. The scent isn't one anyone is likely to object to.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 29 OCT 21 by peterdewolf
Thank you for that reply, it's very helpful
Discussion id : 106-395
most recent 8 NOV 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 8 NOV 17 by steve fritz
Dense climber to 11 feet in my eastern Carolina zone 7 garden. Will get black spot. Flowers are small and sparsely produced for such a large plant.
Discussion id : 613
most recent 30 MAY 16 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
Reply #1 of 2 posted 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
New Dawn is an outstanding disease and good repeat. It is also quite shade tolerant. It's flexible canes are easy to train. If you want a better flower, there is a sport of New Dawn called Awakening. Mine took a year before they flowered, but they are worth the wait. Completely hardy in my garden. Be warned, however, that they get big very quickly.

One rose that blooms like mad all summer with only half a days sun is Abraham Darby. It can be grown as a small climber (8ft) and has a fragrance to die for. It does get blackspot, but it still never stops flowering. It has had very little dieback during the winter.

My favorite climbing rose has to be Westerland or its sport, Autumn Sunset. Both bloom very well, and have been completely disease free for me in Pennsylvania (blackspot heaven). Westerland also has a great fragrance (Autumn Sunset is not as fragrant to my nose). I have heard reports that they are shade tolerant, but I have never grown them under such conditions. In my zone 6 garden, they can lose a few canes during the winter, but come back very quickly. In colder zones, they might not grow well as climbers.

Other roses you may check out are Bubble Bath and Darlow's Enigma. They are climbers/shrubs and are supposed to be among the most shade tolerant of all roses and bloom non-stop. They are on my want list to purchase, but I have not personally grown them.

Hope this helps.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 30 MAY 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for fantastic info., much appreciated.
Discussion id : 78-034
most recent 5 MAY 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 MAY 14 by twinkletoad (zone 7B)
I'm in 7B. I planted Buff Beauty last year along a picket fence where it has to compete with some large tree roots, however it does get plenty of sunshine. It has grown faster than any other rose I have ever seen! It went from around 8-10 inches high its first year to at least 4 feet high and 5 to 6 feet wide at the BEGINNING of its second year after a harsh winter. It's covered in buds. This rose is a great choice for someone who wants a large, fast growing climber!
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