For anyone who has been wondering if this rose is Timeless Purple, it is not. A friend has been reaching out to many Monrovia reps and trying to contact the breeder and finally received confirmation that this rose is not the same. They received an email that says "When we originally sent plants to the USA for trial we had a number of selections. At Tesselaar we decided that NOA38121 [Timeless Purple] wasn't as disease resistant as we would like and decided NOA11356 was a better performing plant overall. Monrovia were happy with NOA11356 so we let them release that one under the Eau de Parfum branding. They are 2 different varieties, but we feel NOA11356 is the better performer"