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Looks like Gay Hill or any number of other chinas. It's definitely not Cramoisi S.
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29 MAY 11 by
 jedmar
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'Cramoisi Supérieur' in Europe is a different rose than in USA. I believe this is because of the various synonyms CS = Agrippina = L'Eblouissante = etc. got mixed up already in the 19th century. Needs sorting out.
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Yes, it certainly does need sorting out. C.S. tends to get confused here too with Louis Philippe. I thought they were able to do testing on them to determine the genetic differences but maybe that hasn't been widely done yet. Oh well, until they get it all sorted out, I guess we'll all go on enjoying them the way they are, not really knowing for sure.
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This looks more like Fabvier than Cramoisi Superieur.
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26 OCT 08 by
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Seems that you are right, Margaret my variety is the same as Yedmars and Ami Roses, and even the older painting shows. Actually my photo was taken, when the flowers were complete open, when you will have an exactly look at it, the flowers are semi-double.
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Cramoisi Superior is supposed to be semi-double to double - not a single petaled rose.
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Looking at the series of photos, there appear to be two different roses currently using this name. Those with fewer petals (none are single, as I understand the term) look more like the 1880 illustration. So who is the fuller rose, or was the 1880 illustrator given a different rose to paint?
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