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Initial post 14 JUN 06 by Anonymous-103537
Hi! I'm re-posting these 4 found roses (in consecutive emails.) I'm in the Northeast, zone 4, all are unknown OGR's from gravesites and homesteads dating from the late 1800's to early 1900's. Any suggestions, info or names would be much appreciated. They're all growing in my garden now, all sucker freely. Thanks, Michele
PS, This is #1 ( of 4) roses, and is from a late 1800's gravesite, suckers freely, thin plentiful spines about 4 feet tall ( a gallica, no doubt)
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 6 JUL 06 by Jody
Hi , Random House has a book of Old Roses that is available at Amazon right now on sale. I haven't seen it but I ordered it because it was ridiculously cheap and I have their book Random House Book of Roses and love it. I wonder if you might be able to ID some of your found roses in it?? your Library might have it. just a thought Jody   Random House Book of Old Roses. It was on sale for 1.99 at Amazon . not sure if it is still on sale..  Later they still list it as 1.99
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 4 NOV 06 by Cass
The most obvious possibility is that your rose is Charles de Mills. If you've checked and found that it is different, then...

Please take a look at the found Hybrid China that goes under a number of names: "Huntington The Bishop," and "Double Plum Hybrid China." Then see Velours Episcopal at the Vintage Gardens website, http://www.vintagegardens.com/roses.aspx?cat_id=18. The form shown is somewhat variable, but at least one of the shots is very similar to your rose.

These dark purple roses can be very difficult to capture with digital cameras, and browsers are notorious for showing the colors poorly. Something about the form of your rose reminds me of the rose "Hungtinton The Bishop."

One hint that your rose might be a Hybrid China rather than a gallica is that the foliage should be better, more lush and more disease resistant throughtout the season, without any premature aging that Gallicas sometimes show, looking a bit tired by the end of the season.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 11 MAR 07 by Ozarksroselady
I wonder if it could be Rose de Rescht...the form is similar. I have this rose in my garden and it is one of my favorites. I live in southern Missouri, zone 6. I, too, hunt old cemetaries for roses and have had good success.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 9 AUG 09 by AbbyB
Looks like Charles de Mills to me. I had two actually and they both froze out.
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