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My Estelle is not the same as the gallica it is listed under. Mine is from Suzy Verrier (North Creek Farm) and is R. pendulina x 'Alika'
I have mine because of the Hansen connection (He found and brought 'Alika' to the US) It is similar to a wild rose (single blooms but a darker shade of pink I think)
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31 AUG 10 by
Naasra
I would really like to see some pictures of this rose. Could you maybe post some (including huds, foliage and stems) ?
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In his 1943 ARS annual article "Getting Rid of Blues and Thorns", Hansen wrote that Zitkala was released in 1942. It is a "hardy, double thornless red rose....the wood is smooth except for some weak bristles and a very few small thorns near the base of the main shoots....Flowers a brilliant velvety red, nearly 3 inches across, with 25 petals. A typical R. blanda plant, of strong upright habit, with red bark. After many years this is the first 'break' away from the light lavender-pink of the wild rose, to get the blue out of the red. Zitkala is the Teton Sioux Indian word for 'bird'...Pedigree: Rosa blanda (from Bonanza Springs, western Minnesota, on the east shore of Bigstone Lake) x pollen of the Amadis (or Crimson Boursault), an old English rose with deep crimson-purple flowers. In June, 1942, the original plant of Zitkala bloomed in profusion, with over 250 flowers. No seed hips resulted, so far."
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Wendy,
Thank you for posting this information. I have put a comment in the "Notes" section of the main page suggesting users refer to the Q & C tab for more information about the rose.
Smiles,
Lyn
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Is Zitkala recurrent? Fragrant? Thanks. Antonia in NH
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No, it isn't recurrent, nor is it particularly fragrant. It does have very dark red thornless (for the most part) canes.
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Zitkala is not recurrent and I don't think of it as particularly fragrant. I had to move mine after a tough winter (it had quite a bit of die back and the rabbits like it too).
My winters are usually very windy and dry with unreliable snow cover. This last winter we had temps in the 30 below range and it had no dieback. This might be one of those roses that takes a year or two to really come into its own.
Wendy
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21 MAY 09 by
Cass
Hi, Wendy. Is your Zitkala velvety red? The plant I received has crimson purple flowers.
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No, mine certainly isn't "red" in the sense that I think of red (like modern roses are red). Mine is definitely shades of a crimson purple. Do you have a 'Maheca'? Mine is more red than that but still, not a true red by any means.
I asked Paul Olsen about this rose (Suzy Verrier said in her catalog that he helped her i'd the rose) and he said he was 99.9% sure that it was Zitkala, because I was like you...wondering if I had the wrong thing. If I remember right, Suzy found it at a Maryland experiment station and asked Paul to help her figure out what it was.
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1 JUN 09 by
Cass
Thanks, Wendy. I posted the description from the article in the American Rose Annual. That issue (1943) also has a photo which I will scan. The plant it shows is rigidly upright, about chest height. I'm still waiting for upright.
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Hi,
I'm able to log in as a registered user but can't add roses to my list...no tabs appear in any of the places where I'm supposed to be able to add them.
Thanks, Wendy Lawrenson WendyinSD
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Problem corrected, thanks for letting us know Wendy.
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