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Kim Rupert
most recent 13 days ago HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 days ago by Jeri Jennings
"Grandmother's Hat" is NOT the same as 'Molly Sharman-Crawford'.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 14 days ago by Kim Rupert
That was one of the several potential identifications proposed by Bob Edberg based upon illustrations in old rose publications. Unfortunately, we'll never know just who it is. I sent bud wood of it to The Netherlands years ago in hopes someone there would be able to compare it to similar roses there. It hasn't ever happened.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 13 days ago by Jay-Jay
Kim,
Maybe I might shine some light on that in a personal message.
Once I got delivered 3 the same unknown roses instead of Gruss an Aachen.
I wasn't familiar with Grandmother's Hat... and today I looked at some photo's on HMF of it and for me the "false delivered Gruss an Aachen" and G.H. were similar. I gave those plants away.
Best Regards, Jay-Jay.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 13 days ago by Kim Rupert
Thanks, Jay-Jay. Good "seeing" you, by the way!
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 13 days ago by Kathy Strong
The rose exhibitor community has been showing Grandmothers Hat under the name “Cornet” for decades. “Found” roses are not allowed at most shows, and apparently someone did a comparison in the literature, and that was the best approximation to the found rose that is everywhere in California.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 13 days ago by Kim Rupert
Another Bob Edberg effort. Bob's major effort was Limberlost Books. He found old colored plates he felt were sufficient matches for both of those identifications. And, it was based upon those plates he made them.
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Initial post 14 days ago by Kim Rupert
From the Australian patent:
ROSE
Rosa

Variety: ‘Meigronurisar’ synonym ‘Climbing Gold Bunny’
Application No. 1991/107
Application Received: 23 September 1991
Applicant: SNC Meilland et Cie, of Antibes, France
Australian Agent: Ross Roses, of Willunga, South Australia

Description – see comparison tables
‘Meigronurisar’ is a medium sized climbing rose. Flowers are produced in a cluster habit and flowering is remontant. This variety has medium size leaves. The terminal leaflets are medium green in colour, concave in cross section, round at the base and glossy on the upper side. The leaflet margin is strongly undulating. Stem thorns are catena on the upper side and concave on the lower. The pedicel is smooth. The double flower has many petals (26-50). Flowers are produced from ovate buds and are medium yellow in colour (RHS 9B-C). Petals are mildly reflexed and show distinct undulation. Sepals have weak extensions. Stamens are yellow and the style is yellow/green. The seed vessel is medium sized and pitcher shaped.

Origin
‘Meigronurisar’ is a medium sized climbing rose. Flowers are produced in a cluster habit and flowering is remontant. This variety has medium size leaves. The terminal leaflets are medium green in colour, concave in cross section, round at the base and glossy on the upper side. The leaflet margin is strongly undulating. Stem thorns are catena on the upper side and concave on the lower. The pedicel is smooth. The double flower has many petals (26-50). Flowers are produced from ovate buds and are medium yellow in colour (RHS 9B-C). Petals are mildly reflexed and show distinct undulation. Sepals have weak extensions. Stamens are yellow and the style is yellow/green. The seed vessel is medium sized and pitcher shaped.

Origin
‘Meigronurisar’ is a sport of the bush form of ‘Meigronuri’ (‘Gold Bunny’). Subsequent plants were obtained from cuttings. It was selected by SNC Meilland et Cie.

Comparator
‘Meigronuri’ (‘Gold Bunny’), the bush form of ‘Meigronurisar’.

Comparative Trial
The trial was conducted at Willunga, South Australia in open beds in a loam clay soil. Plants were propagated from cuttings in February 1990 and planted out in June 1991. Mulch was applied in September 1991 and pest and disease treatments were applied as required. Seven plants of ‘Meigronurisar’ and five of ‘Meigronuri’ were planted in separate rows with 880mm between plants.

Prior Applications and sales

Country Year Status Name Applied
France 1990 Pending Meigronurisar
Rep South Africa 1990 Pending Meigronurisar
Italy 1991 Pending Meigronurisar

‘Meigronurisar’ has been sold in France in 1990.

Description prepared by Kim Syrus of Ross Roses, Willunga SA.

Table of Comparison of Rose Varieties
(* = comparator)

‘Meigronurisar’ *’Meigronuri’
(‘Climbing Gold Bunny’) (‘Gold Bunny’)

PLANT GROWTH TYPE
climber bush

TERMINAL LEAFLET LENGTH (mm)
mean 46.7 60.7
range 78-102 84-102
std. deviation 7.93 5.18

TERMINAL LEAFLET WIDTH (mm)
mean 28.0 34.7
range 18-37 26-40
std. deviation 3.64 4.02

FLOWER COLOUR GROUP
medium yellow medium yellow

PETAL COLOUR – RHS Number
midzone outside 9C 9C
midzone inside 9C 9C
margin outside 9B 9B
margin inside 9A 9A

NUMBER OF PETALS 26-50 26-50

FLOWER DIAMETER (mm)
mean 90.7 92.8
range 78-102 84-102
std. deviation 5.63 5.49

PETAL REFLEXING
mild mild

STAMEN FILAMENT COLOUR
yellow yellow

STYLE COLOUR yellow/green yellow/green
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most recent 7 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 APR by Bug_girl
Do you need any test growers? I volunteer, if you do. Zone 7a.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 7 APR by Kim Rupert
Thank you. I need to see about getting it propagated first.
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most recent 2 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 APR by HMF Admin
More wonderful photo contributions to HMF !! Thank you Robert.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 1 APR by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Thank you for all you do, and over twenty years now! =)
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 1 APR by HMF Admin
Thanks for the acknowledgement Robert, but least we not forget the past and present selfless, dedicated and loyal volunteers that have made HMF possible.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 2 APR by Kim Rupert
Let's see if I can post a comment now.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 2 APR by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Yes, thanks to ALL!
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 2 APR by Kim Rupert
It's what makes the HMF world go around!
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