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'Tzigane' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 119-732
most recent 9 JAN 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 JAN 20 by Michael Garhart
If there was ever a competition for Top 10 Most Pernet-looking Roses Ever, this would be on it.
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Discussion id : 112-309
most recent 23 JUL 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 22 JUL 18 by Mariano R. Saviello
Hello everyone!

Does anybody have any picture/ drawing of the long lost sports of ‘Tzigane’: ‘GOLDEN TZIGANE’, 'VALERIE BOUGHEY’, 'NELL GWYN’, 'DUNTON GOLD’ and ‘RITA JACKSON’?

I have been looking for them everywhere but could not find anything so far.
Thanks in advane for any contribution!

Mariano (Buenos Aires, Argentina).
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 22 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
Hello Mariano,
I have had a fairly decent search for any photos, but found nothing. However, I have added the few references that cropped up in my search. I can't help noting that four of these roses originated in the U.K., and the fifth,'Rita Jackson', was a sport from Western Australia. It is most unlikely that 'Rita Jackson' ever made it to Argentina.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 22 JUL 18 by Mariano R. Saviello
Hello Patricia,

Thank you so much for your reply, your interest and your always valuable contributions. I think we have already been in touch previously (probably a couple of years ago) here and by e-mail, regarding HTs 'Chantré', and 'Admiral Dewey', but I have been absent for several reasons, but now I think I will start to participate here quite more often, once again.
I have seen there is a single picture of 'Nell Gwyn' by "AmyRoses" (EB), but after contacting him, he told me this morning it is the only picture he could manage to take in the "Roseraie de la Ville de Montauban", unfortunately.

Thank you, once again and we stay in touch.
Mariano.

p/s: btw, I have contacted Ross Roses this afternoon regarding 'Pink Perfecta' (A. Ross & Son/Ross Roses (Australia, 1962)). Are you familiar with this rose or this nursery in Australia? As far as I know it is said to be the Australian form of 'Kordes Perfecta Superior'.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 23 JUL 18 by Margaret Furness
Ross Roses is Australia's oldest surviving rose nursery, having started in 1902, and one of the few which still stocks many heritage roses. In recent years they've increased their focus on Australian-bred roses, especially those of George Thomson.
Pink Perfecta is listed on hmf as a sport of Perfecta, discovered by Ross Roses, but I don't know if it's still around.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 23 JUL 18 by Mariano R. Saviello
Thank you very much, Margaret!
As far as I know, 'Pink Perfecta' is said to be the same sport than 'Perfecta Superior', which was discovered in Germany, more or less by the same time 'Pink Perfecta' was discovered in Australia. Anyway, it would be quite interesting to see whether these two sports are the same or not.
Maybe "Ross Roses" may give us a good hint!

Warmest regards from Buenos Aires!
Mariano.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 23 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
A pleasure Mariano. (I have already responded to your Private Message before I could see that you had also made a public Comment.)
HelpMeFind works best if we put a Comment under specific roses, and I will respond further in 'Pink Perfecta'.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 23 JUL 18 by Mariano R. Saviello
100% agree, Patricia. I was about to delete the p/s regarding 'Pink Perfecta', but I did not know whether you could manage to see the comment in case I wrote it in another thread, within the 'Pink Perfecta' "Comments" section. Now, I think I know how it works! :)

Thank you very much for your valuable comments and advice.
Warm regards and we stay in contact.
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