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'AUSwinter' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hi, does anybody grow this rose in part shade? The area beside my front door I'd like to plant a climber in gets about 4-6 hrs morning sun, depending on whether it's winter or summer. I'm in 10a, bay area California where it hits 100F maybe 5 days per year. Thank you!
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#1 of 5 posted
8 days ago by
 Jay-Jay
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Hi,
I grow it in partial shade, doesn't thrive there and does not behave as a climber at that spot.
Abraham Darby copes better with partial shade.
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Yes, Abraham Darby tolerates some shade.
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#3 of 5 posted
8 days ago by
SDShine
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Thank you both for the speedy replies! I'm headed down to Regan in a bit and they've also got James Galway. Do either of you have experience with this rose in shade? Thanks again.
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I have no experience with Galway.
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#5 of 5 posted
7 days ago by
Jay-Jay
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Sorry, no experience with Galway either.
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This rose came back very strongly from winter after its first season. I only got one or two roses from it last year but this spring it has offered me dozens of pale, pretty blooms. The color is a bit subtle for me by itself, but when neighbor Dark Desire (whose color by itself is also kind of bland but in the opposite way) started blooming I really loved the combination. (WI, zone 5a)
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Mine was the same own-root, really stingy the 1st year. Then an English rosarian told me to give it more potassium .. second year it's an explosion of blooms for spring flush. Now for spring flush I use NPK 10-20-40, plus blood meal & gypsum, since zone 5a prunes roses short.
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Great! Thanks for the info! As a novice I appreciate the advice.
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how did you get hold of 'potassium'
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It's commonly available as compounds in many fertilisers, or in wood ash, or in compost. Obviously she wasn't referring to the pure metallic form.
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#6 of 18 posted
26 FEB 21 by
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Sure, potassium sulphate is a pretty common one. Can add to acidity though, due to the sulphate ions, so not the best if your soil already has a lowish pH. Better to just buy a fertiliser that has a high potassium content. And if you have a wood fire in winter, the ash is a really good source of potassium and will not acidify your soil (quite the opposite).
And the name 'potash' literally refers to ash in a pot, which was how they used to extract potassium in the old days. :)
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#8 of 18 posted
26 FEB 21 by
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Actually I thought he might have been getting snippy. Apologies to Peter if he wasn't.
And potassium is a metal. It's highly reactive though, so rarely seen outside laboratories. The potassium compounds that you usually encounter are technically potassium salts. Potassium sulphate is much the same as iron sulphate: metal atoms combined with sulphate ions. :)
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#10 of 18 posted
27 FEB 21 by
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#5 of 18 posted
26 FEB 21 by
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Good man, thanks. I used to buy all sorts of stuff, including cyanide so I was curious that someone might actually be getting pottassium 'salts', I understood the reference too literaly.
Gathered a big bag of seaweed a few days ago, laid it out on a big tarp and went at it with the hedge shears, made a cracking job of reducing it all. So did the same wityh my leaf mulch, lovely black gold it is. My GJs have put on 6 inches of shoots in the last few days, they're roaring to go !
I'm an amateur gardener but I am very interested in the science behind it all too .
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#12 of 18 posted
27 FEB 21 by
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" The canes can get very thick and stiff, so if you are training it as a climber I'd start early while the canes are still flexible and you can bend them into shape."
that's good advice, definitely will attempt to train the beasties and start early as you say. I've inherited a 'climber' in this property straddling one side of a gazebo, canes as thick as my thumb and rigid, nothing grows on it except a half dozen blooms on the very top which at the moment is about 9 feet :-) . This year I'm gonna look out for potential new canes and try pegging them, see what it does, if it doesn't respond I'll toss it and plant an eden.
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#14 of 18 posted
28 FEB 21 by
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" what is the old climber "
A Deer With No Eyes
No idea :-)
It's a generic pink hybrid tea form with a moderate fragrance. Two years ago I began pruning it and shaping it and feeding it. Last year it put out a dozen new canes that raced from the base to 7 and 8 feet by mid summer and I was excited but it didn't respond to 45º 'pegging' and I got no lateral breaks at all, just blooms at the tip. It did bloom until the end of december which flabbered my ghast so I'm going to do my best to try more radical shaping, as close to 180º as I can and see what it does.
Haven't heard of red pierre, I'l look that up. has to have fragrance though, can't abide a rose that hasn't got fragrance.
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#16 of 18 posted
28 FEB 21 by
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AHH, yes I'd browsed Red Eden and there is a miniature Eden as well, but I did read that neither of them are 'related' to that non-stop bloomer Pierre de Ronsard. I'd also fancied Jasminia, looks very floriferous and pretty but it did get a bad rap for going soggy in the wet and as you say, I'm in sunny Ireland. Or as my granny used to say.
" if you can't see the hills then it's raining and if you can see the hills then it's going to rain"
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#18 of 18 posted
2 MAR 21 by
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Informational Heirloom Roses lists Crown Princess Margareta as 5 (-20° to -10°).
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the fragrance is very good (strong). To me it smells like sweet strawberry wine(does it exist? haha) tasty~
the form is not very well-formed(comparing to the delicate Golden celebration/Jubilee celebration blossoms), the color is light apricot-white. which personally I do not like as it looks old(antique? obsolete?）
the branches is more upright than some other austins, but still nods a little bit.
Mine died from spider mites and black spots 3 years ago....
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