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'Marchesa Boccella' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 167-710
most recent 28 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 JUN by Fredrik
The mops of the roses. No neck and a round face encircled by wrinkles made of petals. Growth just as compact, and stamina of rebloom stunted as its curious tail. Vigour as dependent on feed as the mops on a good veterinarian.
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Discussion id : 140-216
most recent 19 OCT 23 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 23 MAR 23 by jedmar
The naming of 'Jacques Cartier' as 'Marchesa Boccella' in USA seems to be based on a very flimsy ground. The following comment from the 1993 "Roses of Yesterday and Today" seems to be the best explanation(!):
"It is best to enter it in a rose show under the name "Marquise Bocella" as you can use the date eligible for Dowager Queen (before 1867). The date given for Jacques Cartier is 1868, not eligible. The name, "Marquise Bocella", has been officially adopted by The American Rose Society."
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 23 MAR 23 by Nastarana
Jedmar, do you know, or have you good reason to suspect, that both cultivars still exist, in or out of commerce?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 23 MAR 23 by jedmar
There are reports, both in Europe and in USA, of two versions, one compact and one a large shrub. 'Marquise Boccella' was described in literature as compact and dwarf, while 'Jacques Cartier' as vigorous. However, we will only know when the various clones are tested for DNA.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 19 OCT 23 by Bug_girl
Rogue Valley Roses sells both Jacques Cartier and Marchesa Boccella.
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Discussion id : 146-128
most recent 16 JUN 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 JUN 23 by Gregory5862
I really appreciate this article. I learned more about this flower and its story. It's so interesting.
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Discussion id : 140-190
most recent 22 MAR 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 22 MAR 23 by odinthor
Hopefully my eye didn't skip over it; but I don't see in References the following 1847 comment from Buist in The Rose Manual (p. 157): "Marquise Boccella, quite a favorite, being a distinct dwarf variety, with pale silvery blush flowers, very double, blooming freely the whole season."
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 22 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Now added. Thank you Brent.
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